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Can past experiences really shape our marital future? Join us as we unravel this and more on the Cancer Culture Podcast with our intriguing guest, Georgia Marie. From her beginnings as a riding instructor to her current role as a dominatrix and webcam model, Georgia shares a personal story that challenges societal norms and unpacks the influence of platforms like OnlyFans on our perceptions of gender roles. Explore how personal and professional choices impact relationships and question the traditional expectations we place on marriage and self-identity.

Meet Ella and Emily, two young women courageously navigating the adult entertainment industry. At just 19, these women have already faced societal stigma, family dynamics, and public scrutiny. Listen as they openly discuss their career paths—from college dropout to webcam model and exotic dancer—while examining how their relationships with their fathers may intersect with their professional choices. With raw honesty, they confront the judgment and controversies that accompany their professions, offering a glimpse into balancing their personal and professional lives in an industry often shrouded in secrecy.

Gender biases, online platforms, and relationship norms are under the spotlight in our thought-provoking discussions. We tackle the morality and societal judgments around OnlyFans, debating whether it fits the label of online prostitution. Conversations extend to the impact of financial independence on relationship dynamics, the controversial success of male managers on OnlyFans, and the evolving roles of men and women in society. With frank discussions on abuse, emotional connections, and personal freedoms, we navigate the intricate landscape of modern relationships and the societal pressures that accompany them.

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Modern Relationships and Culture Discussion

Speaker 1

In marriage. They say if you've slept with more than five people, your chances of being divorced is 80%.

Speaker 2

Oh shit, I'm fucked then.

Speaker 1

Women can do anything they want, and a lot of them do OnlyFans.

Speaker 2

Easy money yeah.

Speaker 1

No, men are trash. Most women just belong to the streets.

Speaker 2

And men pay me to humiliate them for a living.

Speaker 1

Would you ever like dating any of them? Absolutely not. I'm a real man, not simp. Sometimes women stay in abusive relationships because it's some sort of emotional stimulation, even if it's negative. Can women be players too?

Speaker 2

no, impossible men can't be hoes, men are only hoemakers. Why is that right?

Speaker 1

because you're just getting ran through, even if you want to go on top of your riding for two seconds, because most of that's all you can do no boom, you might like cats.

Speaker 4

What's up with cats?

Speaker 1

It's just like a little joke, isn't it like You're going?

Speaker 2

to end up.

Speaker 1

With like 10 cats.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's my mum.

Speaker 1

Who wears trousers In your relationship?

Speaker 2

Clearly her. Yeah, it's her. It's not going to last. You're so glad To get posted. I know you like that. I know you like that.

Speaker 1

Welcome back to the Cancer Culture Podcast, where we talk about Modern relationships, culture. And Welcome back to the Cancer Culture Podcast, where we talk about modern relationships, culture and anything trending. It's Mr Anderson here, listen. Before we get on to introducing our lovely guests today, I would like everybody who is new to the channel to subscribe to the channel. Press that button, tell them to subscribe to subscribe-da and let's run up them subscriptions. And also, I'm going to ask something else yeah, press the notification button, because YouTube, yeah, they're very, very sneaky and they tend to not show people our new videos and I don't know why. But, yeah, click notification. Let's get into our guest today. We'll start with yourself. Hello, can you tell the?

Speaker 2

lovely people your name, age, relationship status and what you do for a living. I am Georgia Marie, I'm 26. I am single, af, and men pay me to. She belongs to the streets, oh yeah, baby. And men pay me to humiliate them for a living.

Speaker 1

I always found that a little bit wild, you know. But Like okay, you know these guys that pay you to do it. Would you ever like date any of them? Absolutely not. Never Mm-mm, I'm a real man, I'm a real man, not simp. You know, the more people do that is, the less there's going to be like actual, proper guys, like you know what I mean. Like everyone wants to get into it 100%, but then I'm settled with.

Speaker 2

I don't care if I don't have a man and I'm happy with doing what I do, and it is what it is. As long as people are paying me, then fuck it do you like cats? Do I like cats?

Speaker 1

no, you don't no, I'm a dog girl oh, you like dogs, I like dogs.

Speaker 2

Okay, you feel like, I feel like you got a friend, oh, do you know, I'm actually a horse girl, oh yeah I've read horses yeah, you got horses yeah, well, this is what I used to do before I did rf and web coming I rode horses you know what?

Speaker 1

yeah, some of the transitions that I've heard on this from like whatever something to only fans is a bit mad oh yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2

So, like you was, a professional horse rider, not professional Not professional, but yeah, I was a riding instructor so I taught people how to ride. You actually do look like a.

Speaker 1

you look like an instructor, don't you think? You do look a bit like a I look like an instructor, I can see you being a, because I'm used to a saddle.

Speaker 2

I mean you could say that you know, but you know you look a little bit like a yeah. Yeah, well, I'm used to handling whips, so okay all right, so Dom what else Cam so I do webcamming. That's where I do most of my dominatrix stuff. Why?

Speaker 1

does like all the people that like tend to do.

Speaker 2

Onlyfans do like all the same kind of stuff because it all just entails into one, really, like you know, you can get, you can get subscribers from web coming for your only fans, uh, so you, obviously I I actually started, I started tiktok live streaming and that's how it all started for me. So I started that a year ago and then built up my following, uh, being a live stream host, and then, uh, my ex left me a few months ago, who done me a bit dirty, and I was like, okay, like I'm gonna do rf, because that was it with men, and then jumped on rf and that's, I channeled all my tiktokers from rf, from tiktok to rf you make a lot then we're not going to talk about money.

Exotic Dancing and Family Dynamics

Speaker 1

All right, it's all good we move on to the next person. Introduce yourself name, age. What do you do for a living relationship status?

Speaker 5

I'm Ella. I'm 19, I do ORF and I've got work.

Speaker 1

She belongs to the street you were in the streets early as well yeah like you, left college and just went straight into the cold.

Speaker 5

I actually quit college to go into the streets.

Speaker 1

No, oh, did you go inside for a little bit, then go yeah, yeah, okay, fair enough um what else?

Speaker 5

yeah, so I do webcomming as well.

Speaker 1

Obviously I have fun webcomming we're gonna spin the block on that anyway, but okay, um, we won't elaborate too much.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I'm gonna come back on the end hello, I'm emily, I'm 19 and I do only fans, and I'm an exotic dancer.

Speaker 1

You're a stripper, exotic dancer. You're a stripper I defer the term.

Speaker 4

Why are you?

Speaker 1

lying, stop lying. But you know what I have noticed? I've noticed that people that are exotic dancers, they tend to say exotic dancers and not stripper.

Speaker 4

Why is that?

Speaker 1

I don't get it Honestly.

Speaker 4

I'll own it, but it just sounds a bit better.

Speaker 1

It sounds bad.

Speaker 4

It sounds better to say an exotic dancer.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but you know what it is. I feel bad for, like the actual exotic dancers that get accused. Do you know what I mean? Like you're actually dancing in the exotic and everyone thinks you're a stripper. Now it's mad.

Speaker 4

I feel like you've hijacked the name go own it, I do own it though genuinely, like a lot of people know now, I was very secret with it at the start. Why, though?

Speaker 1

because I do it in my hometown I thought he's gonna say you do it in your whole 10. Oh my gosh that's crazy.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's mad no, a lot of people don't do it in their hometown so they're not so secret about it because it's well. But I do it very local to me so I do see a lot of people don't do it in their hometown so they're not so secret about it because it's in town, but I do it very local to me so I do see a lot of people I know. At the start I was quite worried about it but now I'm like I do just own it, especially because I do OF as well and I do webcomics, so it's all sort of comes into one. Do you get worried that your family would like walk in industry, like your uncle or something? My family, no, oh, what did your family say? They're more just, they're happy. But I'm happy.

Speaker 1

Obviously it's not like their chosen career, but I don't think they're happy, are they tell us you?

Speaker 4

no, they're not. They're not not happy, though, because I'm very, very close to my family, so if they did have a problem, like they would tell me what's your dad say I don't see my dad okay, daddy issues.

Speaker 1

Yeah, hold on, you don't know your daddy either. Yeah, I do, but you're not close with your dad no, not really so you two. Okay, what about you?

Speaker 2

yeah I mean maybe that's awful I got daddy issues I got daddy issues.

Speaker 1

Are you close with your dad?

Speaker 2

I was not anymore no, but that's not to do with anything that I do, my dad's just. We're just distant now and that's because, yeah, other reasons anyway.

Speaker 1

Do you think that correlates? Because I've noticed it does correlate. Yeah, it's like you don't know your dad. It's like you sprint to the stripper pole. It's kind of crazy.

Speaker 5

I mean, I do know my dad, but he lives like ages away from me. I speak to him.

Speaker 1

Would he agree with it? No, he don't know oh, he's gonna beat your ass when he finds out.

Speaker 5

Yeah yeah, he would yeah so he should right.

Speaker 1

All right, let's move on then, because I was just touching slightly on previous guests that we've had on the show and we, um, you know, we kind of touched on bunny blue and you know, I heard someone say they're giving you like a bad name. I don't, I don't know how it gives what.

Speaker 2

Maybe you can elaborate to how I don't know how it gives us a bad name yeah, I don't get why she's sleeping refreshes, I mean that's wild, obviously yeah, I mean, what I don't understand about it is like she.

Online Prostitution and Easy Money

Speaker 2

If it was a man who's like wait, I'm waiting for these fresh 18 year old girls, like you know, and I'm gonna sleep with a hundred of them, oh okay. So if that was a bloke, that'd be okay. But because it's a woman, like she seems to get away with that and like this is why women are like what the fuck?

Speaker 1

yeah, because society is generally sexist against men.

Speaker 2

That's why exactly, but this is what I'm saying, like if that was a man in her position oh yeah, he'll be getting beaten up like why is she getting slapped? Yeah, I think it's disgusting because she's a woman. Exactly this is my point.

Speaker 1

That's my point people kind of overlook it, but you know what it is, though I going to play a little bit of devil's advocate, right, because do you know what that?

Speaker 2

means yeah, okay, just making sure we're not that dumb Might do our F, but we're not dumb.

Speaker 1

So I think that if it was the other way around, people would assume that, like, maybe he's taking advantage of the young ladies, whereas, like the other way around for her, even though they're 18, like if, if they decide, yo, I want it to stop they could like pick her up, throw her off. Do you know what I'm saying? I think. I think that's where it comes from, I don't know. Do you agree? Do you disagree? I feel like it's like if they wanted to get her, could be that. But yeah, I agree that if he was a guy, he'd probably be in prison, or be or not.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I just, I just think it's wrong. Even her mother was speaking I heard it the other day of speaking going oh yeah, I was cleaning up all the semen and condoms and you know, and it was such a mess and it's like what do you know what I mean.

Speaker 1

okay, so like, okay, so like okay, because you know I've heard that she's a millionaire now and I assume that she is based on the money that she makes. Would you do it to become a millionaire?

Speaker 2

No, I wouldn't do that to become a millionaire, nothing, no, no, no. I don't know how she's not sold, I'd do a lot of things, but I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1

So a millionaire is off the question, Mm-mm. All right. What do you think?

Speaker 5

I just think it's disgusting when she says I like barely legal boys.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but she knows what she's doing when she says that yeah, which is weird.

Speaker 5

It's so weird. And then say she wants her dad's as well. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 4

I saw when she fucked her son and her dad. Yeah, and then they went back to the mum. I thought that was wild.

Speaker 2

What do you? Then they went back to the mom. I thought that was why. What do you mean? They went back to the mom. Apparently that's what I saw. She, she slept with the son and then the dad straight after and she was like, oh and he and there was the son's stuff still in her vagina. Well, when the dad did her, all right, that's disgusting.

Speaker 1

Yeah, all right, moving it on. So oh f yeah, because a lot of people talk about this and say it's prostitution, etc. What do you? What do you think? What's not with you? What do you think?

Speaker 2

yeah, yeah, it's prostitution, it's online prostitution oh, you've accepted, it oh, I'm not 100, like you know. I'm not gonna sit here and say you know, because most girls would be like no, you know, it's only on it's, it's, it's online. You're not touching them. Yeah, no, I don't sleep with anyone. I don't like for money, like. But if you look it up, it is online prostitution. You're selling yourself, and so I completely agree with that. But I mean, I think you said different, didn't you?

Speaker 4

yeah, I don't feel like it is. However, I haven't like looked up the definition. However, I just feel like it's different because no producer can we get the definition of prost.

Speaker 1

I just feel like it's different Producer. Can we get the definition of prostitution?

Speaker 4

But I feel like when you say prostitution to anyone else you wouldn't think it was online.

Speaker 5

No, you'd think it's when you go to sleep.

Speaker 1

It's on the street sort of thing, yeah because obviously, historically, you never had the opportunity to do that. Yeah, yeah, so I get that.

Speaker 4

If it is, then fair enough. But I feel like if you were to go up to someone on the street and be like, oh, I'm a prostitute, say, you guys ready, you would think oh.

Speaker 3

Yeah, go on. Definition of prostitution is the act of exchanging sexual services for payment.

Speaker 2

There you go. Yeah, we're proses.

Speaker 4

Gotcha. That's fair enough though, but I that's fair enough though, but I do still think like if you went to someone on the street, they wouldn't really think of it yeah, I don't think they would because you'd think, oh, it's more like an imposter thing man, fuck it anyway.

Speaker 2

We're prostitutes. Who cares? I hope my mum don't watch this, sorry daddy her dad's gonna beat her ass, daddy issues.

Speaker 1

So have you like conceded that it's that?

Speaker 2

we're prostitutes, we're gonna own it. What?

Speaker 1

what confuses me? Right, because I've interviewed like maybe 300 women um, a lot of them being only fans, and it's like for me, it's like obviously we're in a, we're in a new day, we're in a new time yeah we can do anything they want, and a lot of them do, only fans. I need to know why that is that. It's wild to me easy money yeah, it is easy money.

Impacts of OnlyFans on Personal Life

Speaker 4

Like day to day I can do whatever I want. Let's say, once a week I get some content. I spend like a few hours doing the content. That goes for the rest of the week, um, sometimes even two weeks. So really see, I've got so much free time, especially if you do have a management. Like you aren't on there a lot, so it is easy money a later on in life.

Speaker 1

Do you think it affects every? A lot of people have probably asked you this, but I like hearing the answers to see what you think yeah, I think it will like everything comes back does it affect you? No, no, I thought it would.

Speaker 4

I really thought it would guys don't care um, I'd say it's just the difference of like. When guys message me like it's not like serious anymore, like it is straight to the point, like, oh, do you want to film content together, do you want?

Speaker 4

to do stuff like that which I get, it like I get, like I put that out there so that's fair enough. However, at the same time, like a few months ago, I was seeing someone and that got very serious and it didn't work out. So I sort of said to myself like I'm not really going to get into anything serious. So it's not like I'm looking for anything serious to expect that from someone, so I don't really mind so much Do you think you should, though.

Speaker 4

Not really Like. If I was looking for that, then yeah, but right now, like, I don't have an intention of being in a serious relationship, so it doesn't bother me right now.

Speaker 2

no, I 100 think it will affect my future, but I'm willing to take that risk. I don't think I'll be taken seriously in job opportunities if I needed to ever go back into a normal job. It's already affected me. I've done boxing for a while and the guys have lost respect for me there, um, so I've taken myself away from that platform now.

Speaker 2

Um boxing boxing, yeah, uh, but I'll happily, you know, own that and at the end of the day, I do. I do it because it's I'm a single mum, um, and it's a life that I can be around with my child and do things with my child that I wouldn't be able to do if I was in a normal full-time job. So for me, doing only fans and dedicating a few hours a day instead of full-time job hours, I'm willing to take that risk if it affects in my future I understand the logic when people say like I get what they're saying, but I just think there is a lot of things you can do.

Speaker 1

Now I can't lie like there's a lot of. Even if you go on instagram, you can like see people be like oh, open up a shop. That's automated, don't have to do anything. Like there is a lot of. Even if you go on Instagram, you can like see people be like oh, open up a shop that's automated. You don't have to do anything Like there is a lot of things yeah of course. And it's not necessarily going to affect like personal life and all these other things. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2

I personally enjoy it. No.

Speaker 1

You know what I enjoy it. I've had that answer.

Speaker 4

I think we all do, If I really hated it.

Speaker 2

I would not be sitting there making content Like I wouldn't do it. I'm not going to do something I don't like I personally enjoy it.

Speaker 4

I think a lot of us find as well, like if we're not in the mood, we won't do the content. Like you do have to be in the mood to do the content a lot of the time.

Speaker 2

So if we didn't enjoy it like you wouldn't really make any content. Part of my thing that I do is I don't have to be sitting there performing as such. This is why I'm into dominatrix so much. I barely have to get naked sometimes, so it's just easy. I'll sit there and make a tent, so what do people just talk to you People just talk to me?

Speaker 1

Yeah, they just have a conversation.

Speaker 2

Yeah and well, with the dominatrix stuff, I tell men what to do and I just sit there fully clothed and just talk to them like shit. What do these men look like, though? I don't get it normal Tom Dick and Harry really anyone. I had a really good looking sort of guy that I'd sort of like consider dating that type of look good, looking like, who loved me, being horrendous to him. But you wouldn't take him seriously now, would you no?

Speaker 1

I wouldn't have gotta all right so doing only fans as a mom, because someone told me right that um you, legally you're not allowed to do it when they're in the house yeah, I think that is true so if they catch you, is that it's a problem? What do you mean? Like if you, if the oh, you don't do it with the child in the house?

Speaker 2

no, I didn't do it.

Speaker 1

Oh okay, because someone told me I didn't know, that I didn't know that was a thing, what apparently it is.

Speaker 2

I don't know officially, but I just choose not to do it because my daughter was four, so she's obviously knowing of what's going on around her and I would not put her in a position.

Speaker 1

She is knowing on that she shouldn't be. She is, she would know at four.

Speaker 2

No, I mean like if she was to walk in, I wouldn't want to put her in that situation.

Speaker 1

No, I'm trying to think. Would she understand what's going on?

Speaker 2

Oh no, probably not, but I would not do it in the house.

Speaker 1

Do you know what I mean? And yourself as well.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I don't do it when she's there, but obviously she's only 10 months, so she wouldn't have a clue. But yeah, I wouldn't do it, but I've not heard of that. Like you're not supposed to do it if they're not in the house. I've not heard of it.

Speaker 1

It's a thing.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I've not heard of it.

Speaker 1

I mean, I don't but oh, it's actually a thing, so you might want to. Really.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I was asking you guys to like if you was being a prostitute and the kid was there. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you two are very young. What's that like? Would, you elaborate as in, like I feel like it's more fun Because for me. I think more and more people are like starting to do this kind of thing. Young, right, Does anything change as in? I think I kind of asked this already, but, like in, social life wise, not even dating wise. Social life wise because you're being too, because you're so young as anyone.

Speaker 4

To be honest, when I bump into people on like nights out and stuff, the more just take it as a joke and not like not really at my expense either, like I'll have a laugh about it as well, because I'm so open about it that it doesn't really affect me and, to be honest, a lot of people rate it. I thought I'd get a lot of hate when my account went live and stuff, when genuinely like I've not had one single bit of hate like to my face or online like no comments or anything.

Speaker 1

No really even.

Speaker 4

But I thought obviously behind my back there's guaranteed to be stuff. But like I think a few years ago it was quite different. Like a few years ago, if you said I was going to do only fans, I thought you'd be mad. But like, for like, over the few years it's been like it has become such a popular thing not necessarily mean that's a good thing, like I don't like say recommend people necessarily do it. However, it's become a lot more normalized now and like, even when I bump into people nights out, we might have a joke in that, but a lot of people are ready for it and that's not I think they might be lying to you though if they're lying, they're lying like if they talk behind my back like it doesn't affect me, like I'm doing my thing if it like it doesn't affect them is the financial gain worth it?

Speaker 1

yes, it is because I've read somewhere that a lot, a lot of people earn a lot on.

Speaker 4

It depends on the person you have like.

Speaker 5

If you don't make content, then yeah, I started like two weeks ago. I think it was like 10 days ago. My account went live.

Speaker 4

I've made someone's monthly wage in that space yeah, I understand a lot more free time, but I do think you spend a lot more money because you have so much free time, yeah, so it sort of does coincide a little bit.

Speaker 1

Yeah, because a lot of OnlyFans people are going broke, isn't it? There's a few that invest and stuff, but a lot of people go broke.

Speaker 4

I think because you have so much time on your hands you do spend it quicker because you're doing things or online doing things.

Speaker 2

I feel like with OnlyFans, to make it, you've got to say about you as well these days, and uh, you've got to have a certain niche. And I think a lot of girls go on there thinking, yeah, I could just get my ass and tits out and just sit there and look pretty and you know that'll be it. But I feel like you know you have to say about you these days it's competition. Do you know what I mean? So it's hard, but if you get hold of that niche then then you can make it.

Speaker 1

Do you know what I mean, I understand the appeal, but yeah, I just think that it's definitely going to have negative effects on people. Some people don't care, so it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 5

They don't care.

Speaker 1

Or maybe you don't care now.

Speaker 5

I mean I've got a boyfriend and he doesn't care. Like I said to him before I started, I was like, do you mind Like? And he's completely fine with it.

Speaker 1

And what if he said he didn't mind?

Speaker 5

Well then I probably wouldn't have done it Really. Yeah, I mean only out of respect, but his thing is like he'd go around shaking people's hands to sub to me Be like thanks, because at some point he's going to.

Speaker 1

That's not too fine. Why not?

Speaker 5

Because that that's not too bad. Why, though? That's because that's a bit mad. What he says is I can end up buying him and I'm free, and then he's like, yeah, but that's, he's a way out like why shake? Hands though that's crazy that's why he said it sorry but how does he know? I don't get how he knows like how does? Crazy, that's a wild. How does he know the people? Well, no, you know who subs to you.

Speaker 1

Oh, so you're there and he can see. Yeah yeah, oh, okay, and he just that's mad, and he just sees them and shakes their hand.

Speaker 5

Well, that's what he said. I don't think he means like quite literally, oh figuratively.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, okay. So thank you for the M3. Yeah, because he's saying he don't care. Yeah, but I know a lot of men that do care, so do you think he actually likes you if he doesn't care?

Speaker 5

No, like, obviously he will care, like in an aspect, but he doesn't mind it as long as he sees what's going on there. He like sees what's being said, blah, blah, blah. Like he's okay with it because he knows I'm not going to go do whatever with them. Do you know what I mean? Like it's all over a phone.

Speaker 1

So you wouldn't cheat? No, no, no.

Speaker 5

Never no.

Speaker 2

He hopes you wouldn't go do anything with any of them.

Speaker 5

Yeah, but I wouldn't Because they're all like most of them are like 50 odd Like I wouldn't no, do you earn more than your guy?

Speaker 1

I have yeah, do you think you're going to consistently earn more?

Speaker 5

yeah, yeah because you've got to have a certain personality for it. Like you get put in like percentage of, like what percentage you're in and obviously you're aiming for that zero percent.

Speaker 1

So you've obviously are you in there? I'm getting there. Oh, building, yeah, two weeks early days yeah I don't know. I've noticed that, especially with the only fans, when they earn more, the relationship doesn't last. Yeah, I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 5

I've noticed that especially with the OnlyFans when they earn more. The relationship doesn't last. Yeah, I don't think that.

Speaker 1

No, I think it's more to do with women, to be honest.

Speaker 2

That's why I wouldn't get in a relationship.

Speaker 1

Yeah, they tend to leave Because, that's to be honest, do you want someone who you earn more than most of the time? Yeah but I don't like, personally I don't you're not going to look down on them or anything. What about you? Is that why you're not going to?

Speaker 2

get into a relationship? Yeah, I'm not going to get into.

Speaker 1

I fucking have you just given up fuck it, fuck them dogs, fuck them Frenchies. Yeah, yeah, fuck it. What about you on the end? I'm not looking for anything right now, but when you do, do you want it to earn more than you?

Speaker 4

I think yeah, because normally what I find that I've been with someone that had no money and I've been with someone that has a lot of money. So the difference is a lot of the time if they don't have money they're more insecure that they don't necessarily I'm not necessarily or with dating a man for their money, like I don't think like that. However, oh shit, I do that's fair enough, like do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1

however, I get what you mean. You just think that it's their problem, not yours. Like a lot of the time.

Gender Roles and Relationship Dynamics

Speaker 4

I just think they come more insecure if they don't have the money and you have more.

Speaker 1

Yeah, because there's a pressure for men to provide and I swear when the cameras are, for you were saying um, that you want a man to pay on the first day, I still, I still sleep that's the problem. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

So like, yeah, I think most people but I don't necessarily think I have to have more money than them. However, I do feel like, from my personal experience, when they've had less money it has caused caused problems. But that's my experience. Everyone else's might be different.

Speaker 2

No, I think men should be able to provide it and I think that men should earn more money than what we do.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I do think they should be able to provide.

Speaker 1

Based. What if they can't? So that's what it means, so naturally yeah yeah. I'm not even trying to like, but naturally, when you build up right, you're gonna be like, wow, I'm earning more than him now yeah, no, I do get that yeah. Do you think it would happen? Have you been with someone who has got money? Yeah, yeah and you don't prefer that it's good yeah, okay, she's 19 now. I know, I know, yes, man, I know.

Speaker 2

I know, yes, man, I haven't experienced it all yet.

Speaker 1

I don't think any man's trash yeah, because I hear this all the time. All right, so hear me out. No men are trash. Most of them just belong to the streets. Just let it marinate, though, so you understand what I'm trying to say. Yeah, and I'm going to explain it.

Speaker 2

Right now explain.

Speaker 1

So this is what I mean. Mean because when, when, let's, let's calm it you're lucky you're sitting there.

Speaker 1

I know let's bring it down because people don't like to hear the truth, you know, but I like to tell the truth as much as I can, or what I perceive as the truth right. So when women say men are trash right, normally because they probably, like, done them dirty in a way, like they slept with them and didn't take them seriously or you know that kind of thing, that's what that's who they normally call trash right or they cheated, but I think that the ability for a man to be trash is caused by a woman. Now, hear me out, hear me out. Let me explain, because I speak about this all the time and no one's been able to refute it right. So if you all turned around and said, yeah, no sex without marriage, like you all, and said, yeah, no sex without marriage, like you all universally just said no sex without marriage, yeah, men couldn't cheat and no men could be trash.

Speaker 1

I don't think it's all to do with sex but that's normally what it is when it's trash, yeah normally yeah what other trash fringe could they do? Like mentally yeah but when they say, when I hear trash, it's normally to do with Like sexual. You know what I?

Speaker 4

mean it's usually cheating, blah, blah, blah, but not all the time.

Speaker 1

So do you disagree? Because if everyone Didn't have sex before marriage and you could only have sex when you're married, no one could be trash.

Speaker 4

No, I disagree.

Speaker 1

I disagree as well, tell me, tell me why. How could they be trash? Remember what the rule is. What's the rule? What's the rule? First, so you understand what do you mean. The rule for sex, what the rule for sex would be no sex without marriage. Yeah, yeah, so that's the rule. Yeah, all right. So how could they be trash?

Speaker 4

because there's a lot of other things involved sexual like sexual sexual.

Speaker 1

Why?

Speaker 4

are you just talking sexual because?

Speaker 1

generally.

Speaker 4

That's, that's what it is right, we're just talking sexual and I get what you're saying, but I mean, there's a lot of other aspects to it that's not sexual and it's more to do with, I'd say, people's mental health and almost how they've been brought up. As well that can come into play. But if we're just talking sexual, then I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1

So you're talking about abuse and stuff yeah because I hear that yeah but I was reading some things that is it actually kind of blew my mind, right, I was reading some statistics. Right, and in most cases in abusive relationships it's both parties abusing each other, but a lot of the time the man gets arrested because he's the man, so it seems it will go down as a statistic as the man like when the police are called, it's more than likely the guy's getting arrested regardless. But most of the time it's both people hitting on each other, arguing with each other, and a lot of the time the way women are violent is with their mouth, not physically, but a lot of people don't class it as abuse, so to speak. So, in other words, it'll be.

Speaker 1

You're saying all this stuff and you know, piss him off and then, like men were more violent, were more likely to do physical things, like because if you see two men arguing, normally one backs down or it's going to be a fight, like that's how testosterone works, right, so you're doing that, and then the only other option that he because that's normally how we deal with our problems rightly or wrongly, we hit things right, and then that happens and then please get caught and obviously he goes, but you can still be violent with your mouth is the point I'm trying to make 100%. So it's like, yeah, I read that Both. It's 50% of the time it's both parties. And then there's other statistics saying I even read in the US share that when it's one party, as in like one person abusing somebody, it's 70% of the time women. And I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 4

I think women probably mentally, like you say. I can see that, as bad as that sounds Like, women are very mentally intelligent, not saying that men aren't yeah but I feel like men push women to that point.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you think so. Yeah.

Speaker 1

Oh, so it's, men fault again.

Speaker 2

Yeah, 100% you think, so I can own it yeah.

Speaker 1

So it's men's fault that you're costing him out.

Speaker 2

I'm not saying in every fucking situation, right, I'm not saying in every situation because I know there are. I was even watching a documentary the other day on a woman who abuses a guy.

Speaker 1

I watched it, did you.

Speaker 2

Yeah, on Netflix at the minute for my abuser.

Speaker 1

yes, yeah, yeah, disgusting absolutely no, but that. Okay, on that topic, right, this is what I'm saying, like, with that thing. I don't know if you watched it, but basically he was blackmailing, hit her to say that. I'll just say that you hit me yeah and the police will believe her regardless.

Speaker 2

No, and that is. That is shit, that is really shit. But I can only go off my life experiences. I understand. Do you know what I mean? And, as a way that you know, I've been seen to be absolutely nuts and toxic, but I got pushed to that fucking point. Do you know what I mean? That isn't me.

Speaker 1

Why not leave?

Speaker 2

Why not leave? Because there was a lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 1

It's a lot harder than just saying it again. I've been reading up on these things as well as in like wow, I'm speaking to people, as in trauma and what it does literally kind of change your brain, so I get why people would leave.

Speaker 2

But then, like you just said, why didn't that guy just leave on?

Speaker 1

Netflix. He was getting blackmailed. That's why he didn't leave.

Speaker 4

No, but still he was still she was saying she was going to take the kids away. But it can, it can work both ways. Huh, it can work both ways Nah men can't threaten with kids.

Speaker 2

Not with kids, but anything else.

Speaker 1

Like what, though Only violently, the only thing that can threaten with you? Violently, really. But the thing is on the woman's side. If you call the police more time is getting arrested 100%.

Speaker 2

So it's like you do have an out, whereas if he calls the police, yeah, and I get that. I totally understand that, even on that show, right?

Speaker 1

You know, in the interview where there was a show and there was interviewing her, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't be like. I believe that I've seen the video and I still believe her it's crazy. That's what I'm saying. Like it's mad. I believe that, even though I've seen her smashing his head in, I know.

Speaker 2

I know Because is there Dean? Oh no, I know Because she's very believable. Like it's mad, but yeah, and then she's probably just a fucking actor and she'd be.

Speaker 1

No, she is now. But like, if, like, if women sit and cry and say like you are you do tend to believe them yeah.

Speaker 2

You know what I mean? Yeah, but again, that's off of personal experiences and I can only go off by what happens to me.

Speaker 1

So like, if people are doing things, because you're saying like cussing people out and stuff like that, what do you mean? Because you're saying on the women's side like they're normally, like it's verbally rather than physically.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah. Well, for the women to the men yeah, so you're saying like they've done things to no, so you're saying they've done things to.

Speaker 1

No, they do physical as well, but a lot of the time it's with their mouth.

Speaker 2

Oh, 100%. I've seen it for myself with friends that are literally abusing their boyfriends. Verbally. Verbally. And they sit back and they're like rah, rah, rah, my ear, him this, him that, and you just think no, but look what you're doing. I can't comment too much because I'm not in that situation and this is why I stay single listen, relationships are very, very difficult, like I understand.

Speaker 1

Yeah, alright, on the topic of relationships, right, who do you? Because I'm a firm believer, as you know, men should lead right and men should lead a relationship. Women hate when I say that, but what do you? What do you think? Let's go in the middle. Who wears trousers in your relationship?

Speaker 2

clearly her yeah, it's not going to last.

Speaker 5

You take that and get both of it grabbing together for three, four years, yeah so this is very, very true.

Speaker 1

It's very accurate. It's accurate 70% of the time that we call it the counterculture curse, right when they come on the show. If you're in a relationship, you end up single when you come back by the time you come back. I promise you, like he's come out now, when he comes back I'll ask him. It happens a lot, like 7 out of 10 times it's happened does that mean when I come back I'll be in a relationship?

Relationship Dynamics and Gender Roles

Speaker 1

no, no, look honestly, yeah like because I'm never coming back then because, honestly, like, depending on the topic that I speak about, right, people will actually listen. They pretend like they're not taking it in and they implement it and they actually do get into a relationship. It's mad because I kind of know what I'm talking about if anyone's watching this.

Speaker 2

I don't want to fuck in my relationship, so fuck nah, but you're you know, trust me, you say that, but you're honestly right, I get.

Speaker 1

I get why, unless you're minted exactly that's what I'm saying because, if you're mate, because this is what I'm saying like, okay, who's your favourite celebrity?

Speaker 2

oh, I don't know, it's got to be Janet Tatum.

Speaker 1

Janet Tatum yeah, so alright, let's go into her dream world, right?

Speaker 5

so alright let's go into a dream world.

Speaker 1

A dream world, oh yeah let's say you're on your cam. Is it one of them, ones where they can flick through?

Speaker 2

oh yeah this is like like me then I flick to her, then I flick to her but we're in a dream world, right?

Speaker 1

so you flick it and Chan and Tatum joins.

Speaker 2

He joins the chat do you want me to do what I would do to him?

Speaker 1

No, no, no, I don't want you to do that, definitely don't want you to do that. But, like you know, you start talking because you're saying that you know you have a conversation with these people, right, yeah, yeah, you're talking. It's like, oh, I'd like to take you out, you know, you go out, hit it off, oh you go out, just think about it okay you know and you hit it off you know, and he's like you know what I'd like? To make him a girlfriend. You tell me you can take that. No, you're lying.

Speaker 1

I did not say anything but I know, with a deep breath, you don't want to say that you would turn it. You don't want to say that you would.

Speaker 2

If I fell for him, then yeah, but I'd never Go on a date With someone I met On webcamming In the first place.

Speaker 1

Whether I fancy him or not, listen to me.

Speaker 2

I'm calling you out, unless he's got like A fucking million pound bank.

Speaker 1

No, stop lying. You'd go on a date With Channing Tatum If you joined your chat. There you go.

Speaker 2

I thought you were just talking about random, but I'm like it's gone so this is what I was saying.

Speaker 1

This is where I just this is my translation for when women say what you just said, right, which is the you know? Now I'm going to translate because normally this is what it means, because I test their logic. I test their logic right what you mean is you haven't found the guy you want yet yeah, because if Channing Tatum came online him oh 100 if he wanted you yeah so don't say you don't ever want a man. Say I found the man that I want yeah yeah, it's just logic.

Speaker 2

You know, logic's undefeated um yeah, but then, but yeah, if you came along, you'd change channel.

Speaker 5

Yeah, oh, that's you trousers yeah, yeah, I'll do um the point I was I was gonna get that.

Speaker 1

Yeah is a lot of the time when I speak to people, I can tell how the relationship is based on how I talk, what they're saying about their guy and how they're speaking right. I don't want to be a nigger too. I don't think it's gonna last. How long has it been so far?

Speaker 5

two years three, four years that we've been together three, four.

Speaker 1

Okay for it. Okay. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, hopefully I'm wrong. I don't wish anything on relationships but yeah I just don't think women can lead the relationship because you like get bored very, very easily. You have to be stimulated, and I think that's one of the reasons why sometimes women stay in abusive relationships, because it's some sort of emotional stimulation even if it's negative, yeah you have to have it like men, we don't, care't, care, we're bought.

Speaker 1

Like literally we'll get up, we'll do the same thing every day. Most men like, if you're routine based, which most men are, you could eat the same thing every day. You could get up, go gym, go football, come back, eat some steak, play games, go sleep, get up, go work and literally do the same thing every day. You lot can't do that. I've noticed it. You need something. You need a holiday.

Speaker 5

Yeah. You need flowers out of nowhere, yeah, you need spontaneous, you need emotional stimulation.

Speaker 1

Honestly, yeah, because you need more emotional stimulation. You can't wear the trousers Because the leader has to be the one to do these spontaneous things.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 1

And if you're not leading, you're not doing that. Yeah.

Speaker 2

I'm sorry, it's a bit of a therapy session. Do you feel like, obviously, being 19 and doing obviously, you own your fans and you're in a long-term relationship? Do you feel like you've experienced life though?

Speaker 5

To be fair, even before, like when I weren't in the relationship, when I hadn't had my child, I weren't interested in going out doing things like that. So it literally makes no difference. I feel like this way is better. Can I just say Like being at home, having my family, like earning money yeah, it's O-F, but it's easy money. What did you say? It's whole.

Speaker 1

F? O-f. It just sounded like you said I'm sorry. No, okay, I tell you, said I'm sorry.

Speaker 5

No.

Speaker 1

Okay, I tell you what you're not really into, so would you get married, not right now.

Speaker 5

You wouldn't no, but I would.

Speaker 1

When would you get married? Age For an age out.

Speaker 5

Probably like 22. So two years from now, yeah.

Speaker 1

With this guy. Yeah, he's going to propose to you, or are Are you going to propose to him?

Speaker 5

No, no, no, I wouldn't want to propose.

Speaker 1

Yeah, of course, there you go Of course the man I think should propose. So you have to convince him to propose to you.

Speaker 5

Well, no, yeah, no, if he wants to, he will.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but you've got to make it seem like I can't lose this girl. You've got to convince him.

Speaker 5

Oh, maybe. Hint hint, I feel like You're watching this Because I'm going to be doing the show two years from now. Yeah.

Speaker 1

You're back now so I can ask for it Is or is not the council culture curse real? Yeah, it's real, honestly, but I wish nothing but the best.

Speaker 5

I'll be messaging you, I'll be like right fact, I'll be getting married and I'm not wishing it I'm not wishing it, but if it does, message the the page yeah, well, we need to.

Speaker 1

People don't believe this curse and I'm telling you it's, it's true guess what I'm getting married literally could happen.

Speaker 2

Do you want to get married? Yeah, yeah, I'd love to get married one day.

Speaker 1

It's funny as much as people are like come on, I don't want no man, all this talk. You do want to get married, why would you not? I don't get it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, of course I just like the thought of a big white wedding.

Speaker 4

That's my issue and it's a fairy tale day.

Speaker 2

I don't actually think the whole marriage thing is like really. I just like the thought of a wedding yeah and then he.

Speaker 1

You know what. You know what I've got. You know what? Yeah, cause I've been looking for a sponsor for the show. Yeah, I promise you I could. I know, I know I've got a sponsor. Divorce divorce.

Speaker 2

Yeah, cause.

Speaker 1

I can promise you now I could tell them who's going to get divorced. You're in three to five years. You're dead. Well, I'm Well.

Speaker 2

I wouldn't get in a relationship to start with you, cheeky bastard.

Speaker 1

No, but like if you was to yeah, oh 110.

Speaker 2

Three to five years, they wouldn't cope with me.

Speaker 1

That's finito.

Speaker 2

I need to come with. You know, guys, my wife comes with a seven day free trial, and that is why what I said, my wife comes with a seven day free trial.

Speaker 1

I can't move.

Speaker 2

What are you talking about? The other way for me.

Speaker 1

Oh you're talking about. I thought you were talking about yourself. No, oh, free trial. Oh yeah, that's what I mean. So in your free trial, my free trial, I'll just be coming to my house.

Speaker 2

I'll show you all my whips. Scare them off and they'll run them off.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, shannon's coming.

Speaker 4

I think they'd be running.

Speaker 1

Shannon may come in.

Speaker 2

Can I just?

Speaker 1

say though what?

Speaker 2

I do. I get big ass rugby players come to me. So you think these little simpy guys like I'm talking like big, built like a brick, guys that you'd never in a million years catch off the street, that want to be sat on the floor and me telling them what to do and saying that they're a good boy. I mean, I sat on the floor and me telling them what to do and saying that they're a good boy.

Speaker 1

I mean, I personally think it's a bit strange but this is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2

It's like it's your average. It's not just like when you think of the guy that you'd think that come to me, for that it'd be like little simpy yeah, in my head.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but I'm talking like six foot six built. I get what you mean.

Dating Norms and Online Privacy

Speaker 2

It doesn't look because in my head I wouldn't picture that no, but there's a lot of people that he really doesn't take it to me really. You know, I have heard that a few times it's more that, but that's mad though, but that's what shocked me, because it's more them. Talk guys, do you?

Speaker 1

want to get married.

Speaker 4

I'm still so young I don't like. Do I want to get married and have kids? Yes, it's not on the cards right now.

Speaker 4

Why not, though? Because I'm not looking for anything. However, like you say, if something comes my way, would I refuse it? No, like, if I'm happy, I'm happy. I never like turn down love. If it comes my way, it comes my way, but I'm not actively looking for it and I sort of think that's the way it should be. When I found myself looking for something, I'm sort of think that's the way it should be. When I found myself looking for something, I'm really wanting something. It's not happened. When I've not been looking, something's coming. It's been great.

Speaker 1

Hasn't necessarily lasted, no, but at the time, yeah all right, okay, but what I would say is that you don't necessarily have to be like yo, because I see, like I've seen, like tikt TikTok videos and things of like people going to like coffee shops and stuff, like I don't think you need to do that, but I think that you should coffee shops, like coffee, yeah, to like, or like coffee shops, or like Costco, like shops where they might see men, what not necessarily in a club. Why do you need to do this?

Speaker 1

yeah, so like they'll go to places and trying to attract men in it.

Speaker 2

basically, I've got to run my barcode but you're not looking for a man.

Speaker 1

The gym is the best.

Speaker 2

No, I'm meant to promote me on F. Oh, fucking hell.

Speaker 1

Well, yeah, I think that you should. I think you should be attracting a certain type of guy in a way. Doesn't necessarily mean you're looking but, like OF, is a kind of a repellent to a lot of guys. So whenever kind of a repellent to a lot of guys. So whenever you do start trying, maybe you want to not do that, I don't know or you might not care and you might like cats, cats, it's just like a little joke, isn't it like you end up with like 10 cats sorry, yeah, women with like 10.

Speaker 2

Yes, my mom, yeah, that's my mom, but she's actually getting married yeah, she is getting married.

Speaker 1

Yeah, would you be jealous?

Speaker 2

would I be jealous if she's getting married? Yeah, no, no, I can't wait for the wedding.

Speaker 1

I feel like women get jealous of like if their friends get married can wait for the wedding no, I'll be bridesmaid okay, I'm the same, never the bride oh no.

Speaker 2

Well, maybe one day do you know what I want to go on, what I want to. I don't know about when they get married to a stranger. Married at first sight, married at first sight. So if anyone's watching this and they want to get me on a show, I'll put it up for them apply you never know, the UK one's just finished, right I? Know. But yeah, I'd do that 100%. But he would be freaked out if he got me.

Speaker 1

Yeah now he'd leave, and then you'd leave. Yeah, I, I'd go for someone else's fella. Three weeks, exactly Three weeks. You're out of there, you.

Speaker 4

Literally that's what I do. I did get a show that was dating naked in the UK. I got a request for that, but as much as what I do, I don't want to go on it. I just think you're lying.

Speaker 1

What's that about? I've seen it, but I don't know what it is.

Speaker 4

I haven't watched it, but I've, like, obviously, looked into it after I got the message and stuff. I just don't.

Speaker 1

So what did it do? I don't get it.

Speaker 2

It's Love Island, but naked, yeah, so you're sat chatting naked.

Speaker 4

but I just don't think I could do it, because On TV yeah, so was it blurred then? No, I don't think it is be sat chilling with someone and be like hi, how are you? And not be like looking up parts.

Speaker 1

I don't understand the logic though.

Speaker 4

I personally don't either.

Speaker 2

Basically they're saying so, you don't judge each other by your clothes and everything they're basically saying so you don't judge each other by your clothes.

Speaker 1

They're stripping it all back no, I don't mean the logic of the show, I mean her logic because, like you're naked on some parts of places, right?

Speaker 4

yeah, but I wouldn't want to date. I mean, like, if I, if I'm dating, like actually dating, I'm obviously looking for something.

Speaker 2

I just don't think I'd be looking for something that's naked, like I want that do you not think, though, as an of girl, you're gonna lose like fucking subscribers because they can just See you naked on telly? Then why are they Going to subscribe? Nah, nah, nah, I think you'd probably.

Speaker 1

Get more. Do you Really, yeah, yeah, nah, I don't know, I would have thought Like you, like Before I started this show, but now You'd probably get more.

Speaker 2

Nah, I don't know yeah.

Speaker 5

Because they, they want more, they want costumes.

Speaker 1

I don't know how I know so much, people just tell me things like that.

Speaker 5

You're not so insane.

Speaker 1

That's where the Nah you're. Every time someone tries to make that joke, I'm like listen, anyone, listen. Anyone finds any evidence of me ever being an OnlyFans, ever subscriber? Yeah, I'll transfer you 2,000, 5,000, 5,000.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but you could just make a fake name, you're using 22407.

Speaker 1

You know what? That's true, but if you somehow source it and link it to me somehow, I'll transfer you 5,000 pounds.

Speaker 4

Okay, deal.

Speaker 1

Yeah, any burner accounts anything to do with my name. Talking about that, though, like the whole, username thing, right.

Speaker 2

I've had a couple of girls like my boyfriend subscribed to your profile and you've been chatting to him and I'm like, oh okay, yeah, let me just go through because you know your boyfriend's called user 240937 oh, yeah, because I know that's gary from down the street, don't I?

Speaker 4

do you know what I mean? I've had that. I've had a lot of girls that have boyfriends will you blab them if you found out? If they ask personally yeah but if I don't know about it like spend so much money spent at the end of the day, it is our job.

Speaker 4

If there's no money, they're spending money. However, if a girl came to me and was like listen, my boyfriend says I mean, first of all, that's more their problem. Personally, I think if they was generally to come to me and be like my boyfriend, subscribed, can you block him, like that's a bit different. But if they're not coming to me and I do know they're spending money like that, I think it depends how close you are to me, oh yeah, if no, if it's like my best friend, then 100 I've goes and straight away. However, a lot of the time also, you don't know, because a lot of the time it is user blah, blah, blah rather than a name. However, I have had people come on with their actual names and I'm like you literally have a girlfriend, like I know it's difficult.

Speaker 1

I actually didn't know you can make burner accounts on it. I thought you had to like show ID and stuff yeah, you do, but you use a name, yeah oh, but you use a name, doesn't have to. No no.

Speaker 4

I don't think everyone knows oh yeah, so then people could.

Speaker 1

If I was on there, people could find evidence then, because my name's somewhere signing up.

Speaker 2

No, but that's only. We can't see that.

Speaker 1

No, you can't see that I'm saying like a hacker could find evidence oh, yeah, yeah yeah, so the stand 5,000. Because that's some my card. Like, if you use your card or something, surely your name's on the card right?

Speaker 2

if you get leaked on OnlyFans, then they can track it by your ID. They can see who's taken it To swipe. Yeah, yeah, like who's done it from the IP on your phone or something I don't know. I don't get it.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that makes sense, because, like when someone's leaked content, yeah, this is why?

Speaker 2

like you always, like you know if you're going to.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah Now, but people can still get your content though.

Speaker 4

There's always going to be a way, like someone can video off another phone. Like it's not, like it can't happen. Yeah. However, it is more protected than doing it in a different way Through Snapchat and obviously yeah, obviously there is like prosecution and stuff involved, but yeah, it can be.

Speaker 1

Yeah, imagine someone leaking it? Yeah, and like playing it on your wedding day.

Speaker 2

I'd be like, yeah, I look good.

Speaker 1

No, you bloody would I won't get married anyway, it's fine. I won't get married anyway, but you want to though.

Speaker 2

No, I just want a big wedding day.

Speaker 1

I'll go on married at first sight and then F them off so yeah, divorces are us, we're sponsored by divorces are us we're sponsored by Divorce is? Our awesome candidate yeah, so do you want the big wedding? Yeah, what about you?

Speaker 4

Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1

Give us an age. She said 22.

Speaker 4

I don't know. Honestly, I'll play it by ear. I want it to be in my 20s.

Speaker 2

Play it by ear.

Speaker 4

But like no, I'm not, I'm not gonna say never, but man don't do it don't do what don't have kids?

Speaker 5

why my girl's the best thing that's ever happened to me. I'll tell you that why?

Speaker 2

yeah, of course. No, I meant like not young. Why? Because I wish that I'd wait. Like I love my daughter, she's everything to me. But if I could have waited so what age would you say? Until I was about. Oh, if I was this age then I would have gone hell, no, but. But I think that's just because I've had a kid. But, um, yeah, I'd say, wait till you're at least 26, please oh god, I do think I've got such a lie, but yeah I've experienced everything and doing only fans I don't know though, because 19?

Speaker 2

no, it's not a bit normal these days, I do think. I think no, no I think younger.

Speaker 1

For women. I think younger rather than because even the biological side and the things that can go wrong as you get older, there's that side and there's also men generally go for younger women anyway, that's another thing as well. So if you wait too long, it's a bit mad, it's just a point of situation.

Speaker 4

I've got um a really close friend that is pregnant now, um, and like out of everyone, like she's very much ready, like she's in a stable relationship, she's very mature for her age, like I can genuinely say that um.

Speaker 1

But then I've got other friends that are absolutely not ready, but like everyone just depends fair enough, same age as you yeah, she's, I went to school, but like she's generally, like she's ready what do you think like the women's peak is, as in, like looks wise, yeah well I don't know.

Speaker 4

I think it's so dependent, yeah, everyone's different, but generally though.

Speaker 1

Generally it is a general because I think, when you what a peak age. Peak age, as in like For your looks.

Speaker 2

Looking your best Feeling it.

Speaker 1

I'd say about 28, 28.

Speaker 4

It can be so dependent on me and also, I think, bad as it sounds Can depend if you've had a kid or not, because Some people peak Before having a kid and necessarily they might go downhill, but that's.

Speaker 2

What the hell are you?

Speaker 4

trying to say girl, that's what I mean.

Speaker 1

No, it's not for everyone saying you got down I know, brutal?

Speaker 4

not at all. I just think it depends on the person. Everyone has like, especially with having babies and stuff. Some people can be very different after having a child.

Speaker 1

Some people won't so like but you can snap back if you work hard enough 100% and snap back if you work hard enough, 100%.

Age, Relationships, and Gender Dynamics

Speaker 2

So that's if you'd stay like that I personally think that I look better now than when I did before. I had my child. Yeah, but how old are you, how old am I? 26.

Speaker 1

But you ain't hit 30 yet, so you're all right. It just depends on how old I am. You haven't hit 30 yet, so you're all right, everyone's so different.

Speaker 4

Like Like they look better when they're older, yeah, but generally, I would say 22 to like, maybe 26.

Speaker 1

That's peak, and then you start slowly going down.

Speaker 2

Unless you get a lot of Botox. Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but you can tell Like I can tell, and I think a lot of men can tell when you've had Botox.

Speaker 2

We know natural looking so basically, what you're trying to say is I'm fucked after this age, then why are you taking it to you? Because I'm fucked after this age, then why are you taking?

Speaker 1

it to you, because I'm 26, darling.

Speaker 2

And now you're basically saying that I'm going downhill after this Slowly it doesn't fall off a cliff. But it does decline.

Speaker 1

Like surely people in their 30s look at pictures when they was like 22, 23, 24. I'm like, yeah, and that's why they get in bold tax, because they're trying to look.

Speaker 2

Well, I better start looking for a husband then, because I'm going to be declining now apparently. I'm going to go cry myself to sleep. Alright, my point. Thank you guys. I'm out of here. Bye, do you think?

Speaker 1

do you think having a child will stop you as well? Stop me. What like finding a husband and things like that?

Speaker 2

no, that ain't the worry. It's the only fans having a child. I think it's a double webbing person. No, no, no, no women with children I think it's normal these days, women are being single moms, to be honest I think men are actually. Come on like, if a guy is like looking for a girl nine times out of ten, she's got a kid now yeah, that is true, that is true.

Speaker 1

But yeah, I would, they ain't got choice. Yeah, I don't know, but I'd say a lot of men don't want women with a kid.

Speaker 2

It's a lot of work. Yeah, of course, of course, of course.

Speaker 1

And it's a lot of work with like no.

Speaker 2

But then nine times out of 10, women without a kid is a girl who's going IB for 24-7 and sleeping with Tom, Dick and Harry. So where can you win? Then you've got girls grounded with a child who's at home all the time. Do you get what I'm trying to say?

Speaker 1

Yeah, but it's still and she does only thirds. But if you're not with the person, it's still kind of seen as what's gone wrong. Something's gone wrong or you've picked incorrectly.

Speaker 2

But then you could say then why is this 30-year-old on his own? Something's clearly gone wrong. 30-year-old, what A man.

Speaker 1

On his that. But with with men, even man of the south, as an example, you want to, you kind of have to be, you have to be earning a certain amount of money and stuff and you can't really do it. Young it's not like women are people can't jump on, only fans and just start making grand and grand, like we literally have to build from the dirt and make money, like everything because we've got, because the pressure is on us to provide for children. So if, if we have a family, they're looking at us. If you don't have a house, they're looking at the guy, not the woman. So that's why I'm saying for women, you can get, because you can just get an older guy who's got money or who's stable and he will marry you.

Speaker 1

But the other way around it ain't happening. A woman with money and she's stable like she ain't checking for the young guys mate, unless stable Like she ain't checking for the young guys mate, and then she's a cougar, she ain't looking for the young 22 year old who's broke. So we're looked at differently, like men and women are completely different. What we look for and what you look for is just different no 100%.

Speaker 1

You're always looking for the older guys, so when you were 80, you were a useless bro. You like going with the guys in the cars and that yeah, but at the same time like I don't know.

Speaker 2

I've been going on about men having money and that, but I'm a woman, I'm a single mum, I'm stable and I'm happy. So then, with me finding a guy, I don't know where I'm going with this.

Speaker 1

I don't know where I'm going with this. I don't know. You tell me. Do you think you'd be? Because I think humans in general and this is the logic I use humans in general we are happier in groups, like we're not lone people yeah, we're not spiders and all these other creatures Like we like to be together.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

So logically, to me it's like no matter how happy you are, you're going to be happy together as a couple.

Speaker 2

You're going to be happier. But I just think with these days it's so much shit that happens. It's very different. It's never happy, it's true. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1

But again I'll go back to my epiphany. I said earlier, Is that men ain't trash, it's just a lot of women belong to the streets.

Speaker 2

I belong to the streets.

Speaker 1

But there you go, so blame her. She's the reason your man cheated. Because a lot of the time when you cheat like, the girl has an inkling to her nose that he has got a girlfriend. I genuinely believe that.

Speaker 2

What do you mean?

Speaker 1

Sorry, Like a lot of the people, like if you've, if you've cheated with a guy who's had a girl, you kind of knew, I feel like you kind of knew Women's intuition is not real. Cheated with a guy who had a girl, so if you're a girl and you've been and you were sleeping with a guy, it turns out he's got a girlfriend. I feel like you kind of knew something.

Speaker 2

No, because that's that's, that's no.

Speaker 1

So when he's not replying to that, what do you think is going on?

Speaker 2

Like when you don't reply for the whole weekend. I think that he's got out of personal experience. Don't think he's got a girlfriend. I think he's gone on a bender on the old and don't turn her phone off for a few days. But that's out of my past experience.

Speaker 1

I guess it depends on you, yeah, but you're picking some crazy.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but you should see my ex.

Speaker 1

You should see my ex Like, like, how did we? She's gone. I'm like yo. What do you think he's with his girlfriend?

Speaker 2

You said he didn't reply To you for a weekend. That's supposed to be, but no, out of my personal experience, he's gone off on a bender.

Speaker 1

No, but I've got an easy way For you to weed out these guys, so I'm trying to explain to you Like this is a very easy way, I'm taking this To a whole new level Now literally right how you weed them all out. You ready go, don't sleep with them well, where's the fun in that?

Speaker 2

I know I understand precisely, I get it.

Speaker 1

I do understand. You know what I mean you and our relations and that maybe I know I get it. But I'm just saying give me a vodka.

Speaker 2

I can't stand.

Speaker 1

It's a way to weed them out. You know what I mean. You see what I'm saying. On my last show, yeah, people were kind of like dearing and hating it, and I said women are worth a double vodka. And people were like no, no, no. But you just admitted it. Oh, no, I'll have a double vodka, just takes a double vodka no, it actually does a double shot you in there, mate?

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Speaker 2

no, it fucking does. It used to be.

Speaker 1

I don't know, that's so real but guess it used to take a ring before I know, but we belong to the streets, don't we?

Speaker 2

What to sleep?

Speaker 5

Yes, even if I'm drunk, I still don't. That's fair enough.

Speaker 1

But I'm saying before it was a ring yeah, 1800.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but time's changed now, hasn't it? It has, but who's changed it? I'd rather be back there.

Speaker 1

Who's changed it? The men it's not. Though I'm going to give you a bit of that. Oh God, here we go. Think about it. Where's the incentive? Because before no ring, no pussy. I want pussy, so I'm going to give ring. Does that make sense?

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Now don't need no ring, still get pussy, can still have kids, can have multiple women. Like where's the incentive to settle down? Do you know what I? Mean For the guys you get women, for the other guys survival of the fittest. But for guys you can get women. There's no incentives.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I can just sleep with loads of pretty girls. Have kids anyway.

Speaker 2

That's the problem Basically, right. Let's end it there.

Speaker 1

This is what I'm trying to say. I'm not, I'm just trying to apply. I sit and actually think about this thing. Sometimes I'm like there's no if I do get married, I can get all my stuff taken. So why not just not get married, still have kids anyway and just sleep with those pretty girls? You know what I mean. I feel like women don't necessarily want that all anyway want what like women they don't now, and that's the scary thing can casually have sex and everything else. I know.

Speaker 4

As well.

Speaker 1

Without the whole thing. I know I agree with that, but you've got everything to lose, really. That's my point.

Speaker 2

Stay, single bitches.

Speaker 1

Because I always say this, yeah, and then, like next week, I'd see stories of people that say, yeah, clubbing is crazy, but anyways, yeah, yeah, that's there. But you see my point, though. Right, if everyone was to turn around and have that rule, trust me, the world would be a better place yeah, because we can't get the pussy.

Speaker 1

And, trust me, we're very motivated to get pussy, as you know. Oh yeah, not you personally, but you as women. You know like man will do stuff to get pussy, and if it means a ring, why there's a lot of rings being bought mate.

Speaker 5

I feel like that's what they want mostly, though, like out of everything. Men. Yeah, yeah, it is. From women, yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's true, that's like up there, that's like, yeah, that's number one Sex I think is a massive thing. For women. I think it should be lower down the list for women.

Speaker 5

It is, I'm not like I don't know.

Speaker 2

I think I'm like a lot different to some girls Like I don't need it, but that's because of what we do, right? I guess if I didn't do OnlyFans, my sex drive would be a lot higher.

Speaker 5

I don't know, because even before I did OnlyFans I weren't really bothered.

Speaker 1

Since having my baby like I've like that but I just think it should be lower down the list should be. Is this guy going to protect me? Yeah is he going to provide for me?

Speaker 2

then that, but now it's then does he have a small dick, or I feel like you want to know quite early on, because like yeah, basically stand naked in front of me, but I won't sleep with you just need to check you out.

Speaker 1

Important though, because, like, if the guy who's got a seven incher is gonna run away, if you're getting robbed or you ain't gonna provide for you, then does it matter?

Speaker 2

that you've got a seven incher or what he has, a micro dick. All right, not micro, oh yeah well michael's.

Speaker 1

That's extreme, like that's very rare. He's not micro, maybe it could be. It could be even small, but like what would you rather if?

Speaker 4

they know what you know what?

Speaker 1

let me a question. Let's go into a safe space. This will tell us everything. This will tell us everything. And it's like, and this man, man, A seven inch, six foot three.

Speaker 2

Get him here now.

Speaker 1

Seven inch six foot three but broke and you don't really want to protect you.

Speaker 2

Oh broke.

Speaker 4

Whatever? Yeah, yeah. But are we talking about just sex or dating? No, as a husband.

Speaker 1

Man be Three incher Average three, four incher Average income but would die for you.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, If it's love, it's love.

Speaker 1

I think you're lying.

Speaker 2

Is he a grandma?

Speaker 1

I think you're lying.

Speaker 2

Is he a grower?

Speaker 1

is he a grower? No, he's got it's a good four, or is that what like? Do you know what he's doing?

Speaker 5

four, four and a half like his average that's what no loads are for.

Speaker 2

Well, no, there's actually so which one?

Speaker 1

so I mean, you're pondering.

Speaker 5

It's my point though you'd want the one with a four incher for a husband.

Speaker 1

I understand but this is the issue that men are having. It's like the seven inches get you until you're 30 and then the three inch gets you afterwards. That's crazy.

Speaker 5

Yeah, but you can always get. Maybe that's bad.

Speaker 1

Like the six foot three, seven inches, get you. And then I get yeah, after all, the six foot three guys are bad, and now I'm going to marry you.

Speaker 5

To be fair, there's enlargement pills, no, but either way you don't want him.

Speaker 1

You didn't want him until later on.

Speaker 2

We're talking about that, though I guarantee the seven incher doesn't even know where your thing is and starts rubbing your leg. So we can just go for the we'll set up for the four incher, because he probably knows how to do it.

Speaker 1

Let me give you the right answer. Go on, go for the guy who actually cares about you and wants to protect you obviously I'm just playing so the first question is can women be players too? No, impossible. Men can't be hoes, men are only hole makers. Disagree.

Speaker 2

I'm so confused. I really did not think you would react like that.

Speaker 1

I think women women can't be players can't be worse in some situations what do you mean? It depends what you mean.

Speaker 2

I'm just surprised that you'll reply to that. I really thought you was going to be totally like.

Speaker 1

No, you can't be players impossible how.

Speaker 2

Well, how? Why Elaborate? Because?

Speaker 1

you're just getting ran through.

Speaker 2

Eh.

Speaker 1

Do you mean like playing guys and they don't know that you're sleeping with? I think, yeah, but you essentially, you've just been ran through can women not do the same thing as men? No why, so do you think a man sleeping with a hundred women and a woman sleeping with a hundred men, that's the same thing?

Speaker 4

well, yeah, your willy's gonna yeah, nobody's that it's really sorry, yeah, well, I'm not gonna tell you anything else.

Speaker 1

I'll picture this so I can do it right. If I was from london, right, you know, I'm in a gang and I've never I've never stabbed anybody, yeah, but I've been stabbed by a hundred man. Would that be a flex?

Speaker 2

no, why catch it, bitch. I'm just no comment on this you understand, I'm trying to process.

Speaker 4

I don't really get it. You don't understand, I don't understand.

Speaker 1

So could I say yo, yo I've been stabbed by 100, man, it's not a flex, because they're the ones who stabbed me.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I'm not doing the stabbing, I'm getting stabbed.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 1

You understand.

Speaker 5

Okay.

Speaker 1

So the women are getting stabbed. You're somebody to hit you. You're not doing the hitting, you're saying hit me. So you're basically saying you hundred men, you hit me. If I'm a man, I'm saying I'm gonna try and hit you and they have. She has to let me hit, you have to allow to be hit. It's a different. You're in a different side to the game, I do get it. Yes, they've got to but you're getting dominated by a hundred men.

Speaker 2

I just think you should be in that situation. Basically, no one does the funny blue.

Speaker 1

No, but I'm saying, even if you want to go on top of your riding for two seconds, because mostly that's all you can do, but even if you are.

Speaker 4

I don't know who you are.

Speaker 1

No Boom Shots fired, I'm just saying Shots fired I'm just saying people are blowing after. Anyways, I'm just saying all this stuff for people trying to say that women you can't make when men and women are different. We can't be you, we can't do the things you can do and you can't do the things that we can do.

Speaker 3

Do you think a girl's body count is a big thing? So it just coincides with it. Basically, yeah, it's a big thing.

Speaker 5

So what would you class this at a high body count.

Speaker 4

Let's get down to numbers.

Speaker 1

If we do statistics right. So statistically in marriage they say if you've slept with more than 5 people, your chances of being divorced is 80%. Oh shit, I'm fucked in, I know, do you honestly? Want me to say it kind of depends on age, but personally, I think in 2024, if you're 30 and you've got 15 to 20 man, that's a lot so what if from my age? How much, would you say, is too, high.

Speaker 5

How much would you say is too high?

Speaker 1

at 19. At 19, yeah, that has to be one, that has to be one or two, that has to be, that has to be. I'm just getting listen, I don't, I don't, I don't make the news, I just report on it. Right, so at 19, I'm just telling you this Right for a boy, then.

Speaker 4

So how hold on?

Speaker 1

wait, this is how men think, right, if you're 19, I expect you to have had like, even if it was not a very good relationship. So a so from like 16 to like 18, couple of years out of school, and then you broke up with him and maybe you've seen one other guy after that. That's where two comes from, yeah, three out of push, yeah. And most men would agree with me. I'm telling you so after that. Now that's a lot.

Speaker 5

Yeah, but then men, yeah, yeah, how much you saying for a boy.

Speaker 1

At 18,. You have to be very, very good looking or you ain't getting pussy anyway. That's why women always lose their virginity. Yeah, younger than men, a lot of men one in three men are virgins or haven't had sex in a year yeah, between the age of 18 and 30 also, men do sleep with anything with a pulse. Yeah, yeah because the difference is that women can be picky because you have a lot of options. Like you can walk outside now and tell someone to fuck you and they'll fuck you.

Speaker 4

Whereas men have to work for pussy.

Speaker 1

So again, we're on a different side of the thing, and that's why, and that's another thing why I'm saying that women can't be players, because you're essentially just allowing, you're giving the yes, the man has to get the yes. So if he he's doing something, if you're saying yes to a hundred men, you're doing something wrong because it's easy it shouldn't be easy, it should be hard. So yeah, I would say two cool, which is sounds like you two have finished. I don't think one's actually that bad.

Speaker 3

I don't think one's that bad yeah last question last question is do you agree with girls doing OnlyFans when they have children?

Speaker 1

probably not. Why? Because I was in school as a guy, right, so I don't know how it was like for the girls. But for the boys, right, and I've said this a lot of times, right, if anyone said anything about your mum, it's a fight straight away, it's violence straight away, right?

Speaker 2

yeah, your mum.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's what I'm saying and I remember in school people used to like kind of make jokes like oh your mum's on page three, it's not even true and it's still a fight. It can actually be true now, like a man can be like yo. Is this your mum? Like I'd actually show a video yeah and it's gonna be a fight because and it's going to be a fight, because that's how it was in school for us, for guys. Mum's off the table. Don't talk about mum.

Speaker 2

I feel like if I had a son, yeah, I'd agree, but I've got a daughter and I just don't feel it's going to be like that as much. So, have I. I've always said, though, as soon as she hits secondary school, I'd consider her feelings as to it. But I definitely think if I had a son then yeah, he's going to be fighting.

Speaker 1

He'd be fucked Mandatory kickboxing. He's got to be able to beat everyone up.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I wouldn't be able to. I probably wouldn't do it. For girls but it's a little bit different.

Speaker 1

I mean, maybe the only thing is that, maybe the guys would say oh, your mum's this, your mum's that, like, was it like that? Because for us you can't say nothing about it.

Speaker 2

You like a different, you like more like it's more like you're arguing, yeah you know what I mean, like whatever you probably looked up to the page for you girls. I don't know well, yeah, katie Price, I fucking loved her growing up, fucking dead.

Speaker 1

Now she's still hanging on for dear life fucking out. She's hanging in there, but yeah, there, yeah. But um, yeah, I would say ideally no, but I understand the logic why people do it. Personally, I wouldn't say I try and talk people out of it, but I would say probably not do it that's fair enough for on a relationship side, because men do not like it. Don't lie to you, don't get me wrong. Like again, men will do shit for pussy.

Speaker 1

Like we will lie yeah, yeah we all say we don't care and we rate you yeah, but how you see if a man really likes you is if he offers you a relationship or offers you a ring, a ring more so, then he cares about you, he's giving you commitment yeah if he's just sleeping with you. That's the women friend zone. And again, it's because we're different. You don't want commitment, we just want. We want sex yeah and it's a fight between who gets what first.

Speaker 2

It's just going to get worse. To be fair, and I have one. Oh yeah, it's definitely going to get worse.

Speaker 1

But as long as access is free, access is easy. Men are like yo fuck it, I want pussy anyway, fuck it.

Speaker 5

Who cares? We teleport back to the exam.

Speaker 1

Trust me, like back in the day you had a better deal.

Speaker 1

It's crazy. Think about it, though. Should we go into a drink, because it's kind of mad when I think about it. So before you didn't have to work, I know there was other things you know, and I do agree with some parts of feminism, you know. I do agree with equality. I think you should have the choice, but it's gone from didn't really have to work, didn't haveable for taxes. Back in the day you can have a family, get married, get kids. You don't free anything up until you get married and he's committed to you. Now it's just you have to work and pay bills and taxes now and maybe raise a kid by yourself, and you're still freeing up to men anyway. It's a bad deal for you. It's a good deal for us, for the guys who can get bills anyway.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I think, do you actually start like a little protest and say, nah, you know, but it has started, you know, ironically, because you know, because Trump's been elected, women are like, oh, we're not sleeping with men now we're not. So maybe that could be the start, fuck knows maybe we're wrong.

Speaker 2

I'm making money. I don't care. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1

I get the money thing. It's a very big influence like why they do it.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Maybe if men had the option to do it, maybe they would, I don't know.

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Speaker 4

I know quite a few boys that do do it, yeah, so.

Speaker 2

I feel like guys do better on OF than women.

Speaker 5

Someone DM me actually asking how I got people.

Speaker 1

I've noticed yeah, that it's crazy because obviously you've got the OnlyFans models but I've noticed that a lot of the managers are men and they make them the most money. So essentially, the men know how to do better than you.

Speaker 2

then yeah, but the managers are the men. The man thinks like a man.

Speaker 1

Well, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2

So the man? So if I say I got a guy, a manager, he knows exactly what he's going to sell.

Speaker 1

Maybe that's what it. Yeah, do you know what I mean? It's a bad deal right now and um, women in the problem. But on that note, on that note, end it there. I just want you to say how you think the show went, and then you can plug any social media you want to. If we start with yourself, then we'll move across.

Speaker 2

Thank you for having me it's been a really good conversation. And what do you want me to say? Say, my social media social media as well.

Speaker 1

Yeah, fuck.

Speaker 2

Uh. Oh stupid, it is at georgiamarie underscore, I think. Anyway, stupid, stupid dumb.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I loved it. I'd come again to be fair. I'd come again.

Speaker 4

Yeah, no problem better than you thought, yeah.

Speaker 1

I was so nervous, but then it was great, really enjoyed it social media ella underscore wxrdd and on the end, how do you think the show went?

Speaker 4

yeah, it's been great. Actually, yeah like controversial bits, but I quite like having conversations like that good and yeah, my Instagram is at underscore emilyambrose, underscore right.

Speaker 1

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