Cancel Culture Podcast
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Cancel Culture Podcast
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Ready to challenge your perceptions of modern relationships and cultural trends? We've got Lane, a beauty therapist blissfully in love; Sophia, the social media whiz who's single and thriving; and Lucia, who's on a self-imposed "boy detox" from Colombia. Together, we explore the hilariously complex world of 'simps,' OnlyFans, and how cultural influences shape our identities, all while juggling friendship dynamics with a comedic twist.
Next, we dive headfirst into the swirling controversy of OnlyFans, with a special spotlight on the challenges faced by parents on the platform. What do these choices mean for future generations? Hear us hash out the implications on body respect, economic pressures, and traditional family values. Plus, we don't shy away from the tough questions—how do you transition back to traditional employment from a world of online fame, and what role do ethics play in it all?
But we don't stop there. Our chat takes a vibrant turn as we explore cultural appropriation, nightlife safety, and the tricky terrain of gender equality in relationships. From the intricacies of non-black individuals wearing braids to the real dangers of drink spiking, we dig into it all. As we wrap up, the success of our latest show leaves us buzzing, and we invite you to join our growing community, complete with laughs, insights, and maybe even a new furry friend or two.
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Speaker 1A lot of men are so pressed about OnlyFans. However, OnlyFans wouldn't be a thing without men.
Speaker 2I think the biggest issue in this world is simps right, and they're typically the people that purchase OnlyFans. That's the foremost, I feel like there's a lot of mummy boys.
Speaker 4That's why women have to take the trousers off.
Speaker 2You didn't know that men and women can't be friends. No, no, you know now though right, I know now hitting.
Speaker 1There's literally no need for us to get raised these days. There's a lot of white girls trying to be black, so bad. Don't get me wrong, like yeah, my playlist is going to be Bashman and my playlist is Afrobeat and this and that you racist.
Speaker 2I love it. If a man wants to look after you and you're interested in a man. We don't like that man about. I'm independent. I believe that man should be the provider.
Speaker 1Yes, men's superiority. But again, and we are superior anyway Men being a provider doesn't mean the woman's not worth or like she's not enough. So you want to get a girl for £15,? Is that what I'm worth?
Speaker 2I've got a lemonade Single as well A lot of women are worth that these days. Welcome back to the Cancer Culture Podcast, where we talk about modern relationships, culture and everything trending. Just Hanson here, bk to my left and yeah, listen, you're doing well, because it's two weeks in a row now. You know what fuck all that?
Speaker 6I noticed you haven't messed up the start now, for what a good backstage, a good 13-14 weeks. Now it's done, good innit, like it's done. Well, you know I have to give him a round of applause.
Speaker 2Don't give me that condescending, don't condescending applause.
Speaker 6You know I have to give it to you because I will catch you out.
Speaker 2So you've done well just let me call it back this shit. Anyways, listen, guys, if it's your first time on the road to 10,000 we're doing alright, yeah, we're doing well, man yeah but we've got some lovely guests. So before we do obviously subscribe to the channel, can I get an amen from the guests please?
Speaker 4amen that's no energy.
Speaker 2Give me some energy. Amen, there we go, because we need energy. Where do we need energy?
Speaker 1Thank you.
Speaker 2Let's introduce our guest. For today We've got some new faces, Some couple that have already been here, but we'll start with yourself your name, your age, what you do for a living relationship status.
Speaker 3I'm Lane, I am in a relationship and I'm a self-employed beauty therapist.
Speaker 2What is that? I don't know about this.
Speaker 3Massage, facials, waxing Okay, something like that.
Speaker 2Because obviously, if you didn't know, we have a lot of OnlyFans girls on and they talk a lot about facials. But it's a different kind of facials.
Speaker 6Yeah, it's a different kind of facials, none of that, completely different.
Speaker 2So you're just Facials.
Speaker 3Yeah, just.
Speaker 6Normal, normal facials, normal facials. I know it's 2024. I think we've been corrupted.
Speaker 2We've been corrupted, bro. Crazy. What is that? So you're in a relationship? How long?
Speaker 3Six years this year, happy yeah.
Speaker 2Okay, you seem happy Lane. Where does that come from, that name Unusual.
Speaker 3I don't know.
Speaker 2Okay, where's your background? Where are you from? No like, no like, yeah, up north, somewhere up north.
Speaker 4Yorkshire, of course.
Speaker 2Okay, moving on. You're back again. You like it the first time, then.
Speaker 1It was all right. Could have been worse.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, Just all right For those who don't know name, age, what do you feel you've?
Speaker 1I'm Sophia, I'm 22, I'm single and I do social media marketing. I am a music video model and a TikTok live presenter. I'm self-employed as well if anyone wants to hit
Speaker 7my Instagram. Are you going to break it down? Yeah, I'm going to break it down, it's a secret. So the first shot.
Speaker 6she's single, that's for being single the second one you also said that you're on music video, and then she also tried to promote her Instagram as well. So that's, that's a triple fed streets that's an amazing song, I know that's a record, yeah, that three triple, triple streets in one go.
Speaker 1That's mad wow you've been planning it. You was waiting for it.
Speaker 6I actually didn't plan it.
Speaker 2You know, it's funny that because even the girl that said she had a 23 man train ran on her. She never got three streets you know what's crazy? Yeah, I know that episode's out next week, by the way, so it'll be interesting. 23 man train, that's a lot.
Speaker 1I've never even been with 23 men and I've gotten that.
Speaker 2I know it's just it's just the stereotype of the things that you said, but it's okay next hi first time on the show. Yes, name age.
Speaker 5What you do for a living relationship status my name is Lucia, I'm from Colombia, I am single she belongs to the streets not ready to angle, absolutely not no, that's bueno, no, no, okay, no, that's bueno. I am on a detox what's that a boy detox?
Speaker 2oh detox, yeah, I'm on a detox now. What's that a boy detox?
Speaker 5oh detox, yeah, I'm on a boy detox okay so you're celibate on my healing area?
Speaker 6she's like detox you have to slow it, detox. That's what it is. The D is toxic. So, oh, I get it see.
Speaker 2Yeah, see see it, done it well.
Speaker 7That's why that's why man I like that that's why.
Speaker 2That's why, man, I like that. That's alright, he's got the bars. You have to see. I'm gonna say something though, because I don't think women realise that when you say what I do anyway, when you say that, yeah, I automatically I'm not saying you are a ho, but I automatically think, oh, when I hear that I can't lie, I don't, is it just me? I concur, you can care.
Speaker 1It's like you must have been doing too much, just saying you know what, whoa, but it could be with the same man though.
Speaker 2Yeah, could be, could be but like, why would you? Necessarily make your home but why would you be a man detox if you're just one man?
Speaker 5I was in a in a marriage for over 10 years okay then I was in a very bad relationship with one of my best friends. Okay, I think I crossed that boundary exactly so I lost a best friend and I lost a partner.
Speaker 2So yeah, oh, you definitely you didn't know that men and women can't be friends.
Speaker 4No, no, I had the clue you know now I know, now, I know yeah never cross the boundary, guys.
Speaker 6Don't call her your bestie. You're gonna regret it, though you're gonna regret it.
Speaker 2Yeah, because the minute you give him that chance, mate, he's hitting straight away, straight away. He didn't even blink, did he you?
Speaker 6didn't get to finish a sentence, did you? I mean, I was thinking wait, wait, wait what was the dance I?
Speaker 7just feel like that's what she would have done.
Speaker 2I don't know, this is a bit of a guess alright, no problem, but listen automatically. Obviously you used previously married 10 years, so you're not in the street, so I'll take that one. You won the game. But you kind of won the game and then restarted the game. What happened?
Speaker 5yeah, it was terrible, he.
Speaker 2Yeah, it didn't work out you don't have to go into detail.
Speaker 6It been working 10 years, or that's a bloody while to figure out how you work out, though that's a long stretch I'm gonna have to do it stupid.
Speaker 4Thank you, thank you, thank you, don't stupid uh you're back back again.
Speaker 2I know you liked it first time, I know. Yeah, you put the furnishing out. Yeah, I know, all right but for the last time.
Speaker 6Now you're ready, I see what's going on.
Speaker 4I see you.
Speaker 2I see you girl stand out from crowd you tell them all right name, age, what you do for living relationships my name is mag from york 25 single interior wait, she belongs to the streets.
Speaker 6Newly single, no ah one more.
Speaker 2She belongs to the streets. Yeah, what do you do? Philippine. I do interior design and I content create on Instagram when you do interior design, do you have to go to the place or can people like show you and you give ideas? I'm sort of going into self-employed okay so it's not like full-time yet, yeah, so what do you do?
Speaker 6I'm just on the behind scenes just building up a portfolio so you've been painting walls at work while you're painting walls on the street? Huh.
Speaker 4I see you girl paint the town rainbow, woo, woo woo, she broke boy.
Speaker 2Alright, listen, let's get into some topics. Let's do it. I mean, we're doing it a little bit different because you know.
Speaker 6I've got a list.
Speaker 2I've decided to let the guest kind of decide, because you know we can talk about anything. Yeah, we can, barman's got a list.
Speaker 7Do you agree? Disagree to OnlyFans.
Speaker 2Oh god, oh wow okay, we'll ask the ladies first. We'll start with yourself eh, eh eh, eh no no alright, so let's test this theory. So first, because I felt like that last show we didn't go to a safe space. No, we didn't. It's a safe space, we're good. 100 grand for picture.
Speaker 3I ain't losing my dignity for 100 grand no, no, there's not many people like you. I don't know if I believe you.
Speaker 2I'm gonna take it as face, but I'm gonna say you're telling the truth. Okay, so you wouldn't do 100 grand million, million 10 million. No See, now she's thinking about it.
Speaker 6God damn.
Speaker 3Starist, starist, I'd never post photos of my body. That belongs to one man.
Speaker 2That's very refreshing to hear. I like that One man tell me Anyways, yeah, All right. So next, what do you think?
Speaker 1Nah, I don't nah, there was a bit of a. I feel like 100 grand I kind of think that you would. No, what are we talking about, though? Like if it is like she said something that's gonna like you selling yourself for it, then no what are you talking about? Who is it going to like? Is it one man? One man, 10 man?
Speaker 6I don't know, I feel like it still makes me feel a certain way. I want to say no, I want to say that's 100 grand, that's 100 grand, that's 100 grand between 10 months.
Speaker 1Yeah, if you look at from like a business perspective, I feel like that could be life-changing money. However, I still don't agree with OnlyFans. If it was like you said, like one picture and I'm getting 100K right up, I'd think about it because I feel like I could, I could flip that money, but then I wouldn't do it again.
Speaker 2Do you get what I mean. All right, okay, let's switch it up then. Only fans.
Speaker 1You do.
Speaker 2Only Fans, but you make 50 grand a month.
Speaker 6She's taking it. Wait, wait, wait. The lip quivered.
Speaker 1The thing is, it sounds really good, but then I feel like for me it's just going to be my family, my family's going to find out. I can't, I'm not choosing 50k a month over my family you know, I hear that. I know right away they just gonna yeah. So if let's say I had no family got forbid and like no one to care about this, that maybe, but that's not the case so good, fair enough.
Speaker 2Talk to Kat Next OnlyFans. What do you think?
Speaker 6Wait, we got that button. Oh wait, have what?
Controversy Surrounding OnlyFans and Ethics
Speaker 2are you lying for? There we go. I think you take it, Let me. Let me set the scene. Then. Someone walks in, got some dark black glasses on. Yeah, Walks in on the table.
Speaker 6Y'all seen Blade, right blade blade, looking mouthful.
Speaker 2Put it on the table flicks it up, bam spins it round 100k hash what am I going to do with that? He just says listen this communist room for 15 minutes 100k it's not the same, because one thing's a picture, next thing's.
Speaker 1I actually have to touch that thing. I actually have to. You may not even know to touch that creature creature. It might be that thing I actually have to.
Speaker 2I mean, you may not even touch that creature, creature. So if he's all right, it never.
Speaker 1It never is going to be someone who's all right. Why not? Because you can probably get him for free like a man who's attractive and a high value man. I'm pretty sure I want to say they're probably not sleeping money like that on on an only fans car, surely not?
Speaker 2what I hear from the only fans girls.
Speaker 7But anyways, let's move on.
Speaker 2What about you? What do you think?
Speaker 5I will be kicked out of my WhatsApp if I speak on the subject. I don't, I don't, I wouldn't do it myself, I don't necessarily. I respect the girls that do it, but I wouldn't do it myself, do you?
Speaker 5you respect them that do it well, if there aren't choices, there are very choices, but I believe that if I had a, if I had a daughter, I always think that if I had a daughter, I wouldn't want her to know that I did only once and to follow that path and think that's okay, it's obviously my. I look up to my mother and if, in the future, all girls look up to their mothers, that would be a very different. Yeah, that's bad yeah if you guys think about it like imagine okay, we've been.
Speaker 5We've been saying this, we've been saying this for years now yeah, because nowadays, you know, I'm strong, I'm resilient, I you know I get up every day, I work a lot and because of my mom, because of the morals and ethics that my mom raised me, right. But if you know, if it was an only fans girl and I had a daughter, she will think that that's fine, that's okay good answer on the end what do you?
Speaker 4think. I just think. If you can't respect um your own body, then I just feel like you're not going to get respected elsewhere. And again, it's just future. If I have kids, I'd hate the thought of my kids going to school and someone's like oh, I've seen your mum, I'm an early fan.
Speaker 2It's crazy, you know. You know what it's mad Because like someone's caught you off. I just remember back in school like these two words would make it you'd be a fight your mum. That's it. So fight straight away, instantly.
Speaker 2So imagine this, you can't ever talk to anybody. No, but because they'll be like yeah, yeah, man say, if me and my mum's on on-screen she isn't, but let's say she was and I was trying to banter with someone. I was like, yeah man, you smile, man, you don't get no gal. And my mum would just be like is this your mum?
Speaker 6me, the other child in this matter, would be going but ain't this your mum too? Is that?
Speaker 2what I'm saying yeah, yeah, what about this?
Speaker 6yeah, this is normal. Like what? That's not your mum. No, this is your auntie yeah, that's crazy like someone in your family now is most statistically, most likely going to do it at a. So yeah, the child, the playground thing, it might be void sooner or later.
Speaker 2It might be a thing where I advise them that if they do have a son or a daughter and they do do it, that they have to make it's mandatory, kickboxing lessons mandatory. Yeah, you're going to have to teach them martial arts. And I got another thing I want to ask you. I don't have kids yet, yeah, but I was going to ask you In my of a daughter, my daughter's gonna do so. In my head I'm just like I'm gonna have a chalkboard yeah, you know one of them, little black ones. So I'm gonna have like white chalkboard. I'm gonna write all my kids names on there and there's gonna be a certain criteria where I'm just gonna rub the name off you, just so, onlyfans is definitely one of them. I'm just yeah, that's what I mean. Back to the drawing board, literally back. We have to start again, mate, I failed somewhere.
Speaker 6I feel like that's the problem, though. I feel like for you to, for you to have to have that imaginary board means that at some point you feel like your children are going to fail, meaning that your teachings ain't going to be right, and I'm I know, I'm confident to know that my teachings won't put any kids, or any future children, on any sort of path to want to do that, because they already know like no, this is how we get money. This is how I work hard. My dad's always worked hard. I've always seen him get up early morning, go to work, come home late.
Speaker 4This is how we do things, whereas nowadays it's like oh, I've done a really fine job.
Speaker 6No, nowadays it's UC it. It's like I've got an OnlyFans. No, nowadays. I hate how nowadays it's UC, it's Dole money, and then it's like okay, well, dole money is running out, I ain't got enough money. Onlyfans is away. Let me just take a couple pictures on my bed, pictures that you probably already got stored, that you took 10 years ago or something like that, and now you're posting it and now you're an only fan no, I feel like I hate how they make it out like it.
Speaker 1They've got no choice. Like I've heard so many girls saying, oh, I got kicked out of my job. There's that. And the thing is, if that's what you've chosen to do, fair enough, but don't make it out like that was your only solution, because that makes everyone else like look bad. Like she said, like we work hard for our money, we actually break our backs for this money. A lot of men are so pressed about only fans, however, only fans wouldn't be a thing without men. So I feel like, even though you are allowed to have an opinion and judge, without men there'd be no only fans and I'm not saying this podcast, but a lot of this podcast, a lot of other things. They really profit from having only fans, girls. So, end of the day, you I feel like men shouldn't really have not, I'm trying to avoid it nicely, but no, no, I understand I you know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2Like if there was no men on planet earth.
Speaker 1I understand there would be no such thing as OnlyFans so yous are the one. I'm not saying yous do, but feeding into it. I understand and chatting the most about it.
Speaker 2I'm going to address both the points here, so the first point is yeah, I think the biggest issue in simps, right and they're typically the people that purchase the foremost so proper, proper men don't purchase it. So simps are a problem for men well, you didn't say that before. You said according to only fans girls we had to let you finish with what? With what would you mean, you know?
Speaker 1before I said something, I said high value men, don't, don't do those things. I literally said what you said yeah, and you said. Well, according to only fan girls.
Speaker 2Yeah, I know I understand what you're saying, but I'm saying Just because you've got a lot of money Doesn't mean you're not a simp.
Speaker 1You can be a simp with a lot of money. Yeah, true, so yeah, so it's probably more about it's a problem for men and women.
Speaker 5They've ruined the world.
Speaker 2To be honest with you, it's not necessarily about money.
Speaker 5A high value man? Yeah, it's not necessarily about money.
Speaker 2A high value man without money, but I think that's an yeah I don't think you can, but I don't, yeah, I don't think you can be.
Speaker 5There's a big, but it doesn't mean that you're one because you've got big, though, because what if you just lost your company and you're still working for you?
Speaker 5just you're grafting you're building exactly so loud having yeah, anything can happen that vision and if you are waking up every day and going for that mission and that vision, that's, that's a high value man, right? Also, I literally this morning I saw this post Someone was calling out one of the Facebook followers or something like that. So basically this girl was an OnlyFans girl and she posted, literally her link, some pictures and then, straight after that, picture of her and her children and he was like, don't do that, like you don't do that, just keep it separate. And I do see that quite quite a lot and yeah, they don't know how to differentiate the two, because you know what that is.
Speaker 6There's no training in, only fans it's true, there's training in every other job, in every job, in every normal job, well, normal job, I call it Most conventional job.
Speaker 6There is some sort of training, there's some sort of understanding and getting knowledge of the job. There is none in OnlyFans. It's literally just do what you do, just do what you want to do, freelance that shit, and then you get better. You might get a couple angles. Get a camera now you know you got a new HD camera, it's like 4K and that before you're using your phone, you know. Now you feel like you're professional, yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean it takes a certain girl to make it work, like I always say, like another reason why I would never do OnlyFans because I wouldn't have the consistency, like I wouldn't be able to market it. I'll probably try it for two days. I wouldn't get a subscriber and I'd like, like, leave it. So do you get me not to say that that's my only reason, but that's another one of the reasons. So I feel like it takes yeah, it takes a certain girl to actually make that thing work you may not agree, but I feel like a lot of them don't.
Speaker 1Don't do that, like in exactly what you're saying well, no, not take it as like a marketing thing where you actually work?
Speaker 6yeah, we've seen a lot of of only fans, women, and I feel like we can tell the difference between the real workers, the real hard workers, the real one percent, two percent, as people want to keep calling themselves, and the ones that you know say that they've logged on they've got their account, but then they posted five pictures about three years ago and they don't really attend it.
Speaker 1There's a there is a difference so do you think there's like what, like a being lucky element, or like what just blows up, or what?
Speaker 6I don't know if there's a luck element. I feel like there's an aesthetic element. I feel like the better aesthetically you are, I feel like the easier.
Speaker 1Basically, Lengel's got the subscribers. I'm not sure if that's true. You don't know. I don't know. That's what I mean.
Speaker 6I've got I believe they have.
Speaker 5They have someone to their social media for them. Yeah, that's what I mean, I feel like it does take a certain marketing. I don't know obviously.
Speaker 6I know nothing about the industry, but even those ones, the people that have like people running their social medias, like it's not like they blow up and have mad thousands of. I see more, less than more, and that's only because look how many people we've interviewed. Like I can't, I can't not put the statistics together in my own head and make up my own little judgment. Now, it may not be fully correct, but I feel like there isn't that many that's really reaching them heights and I feel like it is that it's like you go into it. It was good for a minute, but now it's like ah, sometimes it can be bothered, sometimes I can't.
Speaker 1And then the other thing I'm sorry, no, no, you're alright, go on. I was going to say the other thing about OnlyFans. How do you go back into a normal job? Imagine you've done it for like five years. If you're not going to put that money into business and you end up like whatever, not doing OnlyFans anymore, how do you go back into a normal job like you've? You're not used to waking up at whatever yeah, 8am in the morning or whatever the thing might be, even if you're working from home, like having the discipline, blah, blah, blah. Obviously you can't put that in your CV that you've done OnlyFans. So how do you get on with life after OnlyFans?
Speaker 1I know you really need to put that money into business, because, no, I wanted to. But then it's kind of like be scared, they're going to find out and they will probably find out.
Speaker 6It takes a google search or like a before you say that I feel like for women. Quickly, it may just be the. It may be easier for women to do that, purely because you can change your appearance very easily yeah, you can like.
Speaker 1Yeah, you may not be able to change your name, but if your name was sexy fox on on bloody thing.
Speaker 6No one's really going to know that your name's lorraine jackson on CV.
Speaker 5you will have a gap, so I'm a talent acquisition specialist right and I interview quite a lot of people and I see a lot of CVs and I always I feel like there is a red flag when there is a gap and I always ask why, and if I'm not very convinced I will research right. So that could be that element that.
Speaker 6But smart people don't leave gaps, you know this.
Speaker 5No no.
Speaker 6So what are they going?
Speaker 1to say Just chat shit, like, fill it with what. Like she said, if she, if it sounds dodgy, she's going to do research.
Speaker 6Yeah, but you're a talent acquisition person Right now.
Speaker 5how many references how far in references would you really into ladies that do OnlyFans?
Speaker 6I no not even ladies. Just in general. Just quickly in general, like how, with a CV you've seen a CV how far back would you really go reference wise? I guess it would probably be like a five year reference or something like you look at five years and be like no, I actually check since the beginning of their career since the beginning of their career. Yeah, so I'm out of college.
Speaker 5Yeah, we do a three-step interview process.
Speaker 6So just out of quick terms, say, if it was like someone's been working for 25 years and they've had three different jobs over that time, but now the first company that they worked with has gone bump or they're no longer exist, how do you now get that reference?
Speaker 5I wouldn't ask the reference, but I will ask the person specifically what they did, what were the responsibilities, et cetera. It's very easy and very it's very easy to know when someone is winging it or when someone is lying especially. You kind of develop that, uh, with time.
Speaker 5I've been doing this for many, many years, so you kind of develop oh, this person I work in recruitment too, so that's why you know yeah so you know you kind of develop that like within one minute, you will know if the person exactly within one minute they're like, oh, this person is winging it, you know just to kind of develop that like within one minute you will know if the person, exactly within one minute they're like oh, this person is winging it, you know.
Speaker 2Just to address the, because you were saying about the OnlyFans and a lot of people do say this about the show. Obviously we have a lot on and we they profit from it, et cetera, et cetera. They want to be seen, so they're more likely to come on than the average person and that's the reason why I like. But and again it goes back to the same thing, because there's nothing we can do.
Speaker 7I could sit here and say you know what.
Speaker 2I don't think you should do it. I don't think you should watch, but I don't think you should watch that. I don't think you should pay for these things, but it doesn't mean that yeah.
Speaker 6And we do and say on the back of that as well we're always, we're just an open podcast. We constantly want, we want different people's views. We don't just target the only fans. Yeah, that's why I said like it's just a thing where they are more susceptible to come on, because they then use it to try and pump their, yeah, their career in a certain sense.
Speaker 2And they do make money.
Speaker 6They do make money.
Speaker 1They do make money from it, but so do you. I mean, I feel like if you telling me, if there was two girls one right, and then one's saying she's got a 95 and the next one's saying I'm going to come on the podcast and say some crazy things that I've experienced through my OnlyFans and sex work and whatever, are you not going to get that one first?
Speaker 1because, you're thinking the content's probably going to be more interesting, even probably having the OnlyFans girls is more interesting than this right now, or it's just having like a very no, but you say that because our highest clips are not OnlyFans girls.
Speaker 6Our highest clips are not OnlyFans girls, the ones with like a million I've got there's like a few clips on our Instagram that you can literally look it up. Anyone can look it up. We say this all the time you can literally look it up.
Speaker 1I feel like that's a stereotype as well, maybe Like people think, onlyfans girls just get used to views and stuff. Yeah. I just think, because they just say the craziest things.
Speaker 6That's why we try and tell you the truth. It's just the fact of it just being them just more susceptible to come on because they use it for their own exposure. We want your everyday people with your mentality.
Speaker 1You know what I mean.
Speaker 6Of course, you're unique in your own ways, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 2What am I lying for?
Speaker 7Opinions on a white person having braids.
Speaker 2Why Okay cool.
Speaker 7Why what?
Speaker 6Where White person having braids, you do want to get crushed today.
Speaker 2I slay that, yeah, slay, you slay it, okay, cool.
Cultural Appropriation and Aesthetics
Speaker 1I don't know. You know what it is okay. I feel like before cultural appropriation was a thing, people people wouldn't think about that being a bad thing. Now we educate about it, people are like getting onto it. I feel like the way I see it is like there's literally no need for us to get braids. I don't think I slay it, and it's not. It doesn't do anything for my hair. It doesn't do anything for my aesthetic. So why do you want to be black so bad? That's the way I see it. You think it's going to want to be black, though? No, but that's the thing you do. That's great. No, no, no, okay. There's literally no reason for you to get braids other than aesthetic, right? I'm assuming it's not a protective hairstyle for a hair like mine. If anything, it's going to damage it more. It doesn't look good, like I said, because it's heavy and my hair's thin. Let's say I'm putting extensions, I'm getting knotless braids.
Speaker 6Whatever this is, it is heavy, it's going to damage it If you're getting no, not box braids I mean like if you are an actual boxer.
Speaker 1Yeah, but that makes sense. That's what I mean. Like, are you doing it because you just yeah, because you see it on a black girl and it looks whatever, or are you doing it because of convenience? Do you get what? I mean? I'm not saying I'm 100 to fit in with um, but trying to, trying to not, to not get cancelled, but I do think it's a bit stupid for us to to get it. That's what I mean. Uh, maybe, if, yeah, if a girl has a fair enough reason and it gets, look, it looks good on her and it's whatever. But yeah, I feel like it's just these days there's a lot of white girls trying to be black, so bad and it shows I don't know it's quite common in my country.
Speaker 5Uh, I'm from Colombia. If you go to the coast, there is always loads of girls in the beach offering to braid For me. I have hair like Rapunzel. My hair is super long, so when I'm in the coast I love to have my hair braided. It's beautiful and I don't believe that it's appropriate in anyone's culture if, if anything you guys use, you know german cars, we're everything, you know everything from different countries. So that's not appropriate in someone's culture. If you use a german car, oh, you're trying to be german.
Speaker 2No, does it make sense yeah, you've been nodding your head the whole way through, so I'm interested.
Speaker 6Yeah make break it down Meg.
Speaker 4I feel like again it goes back to, people will find anything to call. For example, if a white person's having braids, they'll use it as like to call them that they're being racist. There's a lot of research where back in the Viking era they used to have the hair braided. Of course I don't think it's a bluff, but I just think if someone wants to have the hair braided. Of course I don't think it's a black thing, but I just think if someone wants to have box braids, for example.
Speaker 4A black person shouldn't say well, we own that. It should be seen as like oh, they're just appreciating someone else's culture of how they do the hair, but I don't feel like it's owned in a race hair, but I don't feel like it's owned in a race now.
Speaker 2Of course it's not. And what I would say to it as well, because I don't know, I get, I say crazy things sometimes, but for me that's a slight say if you get fake hair then you're rubbing whoever has, who has long straight yeah, you'll see my yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1So then what can they?
Speaker 2say wait, it's cultural appropriation because you don't have straight hair.
Speaker 1I think it's Asian Indian Mike.
Speaker 2So actually, cultural appropriation is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4See, I wear wigs and I get told that I'm trying to be black. You don't just wear wigs.
Speaker 6Don't just say it like that. You don't just wear wigs, Podcast wigs.
Speaker 4But I get told that I try and be a black person, even though, again, it's.
Speaker 1Wix is different because, you're wearing Wix.
Speaker 2I'll disagree with that. I don't think it's.
Speaker 1Yeah, I feel like it really depends on the context, isn't it? Like you can tell when a girl's just really trying to be black and he's just okay so let me challenge you what if they are? What do you mean? I think. Why are you okay? Why are you not proud of your roots?
Speaker 2No, they really like your culture and.
Speaker 1Okay, but it's fine.
Speaker 4It's fine to appreciate from afar.
Speaker 1Black culture is everywhere I've not got a problem with it.
Speaker 2Bashment is world, world. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1Like yeah, my playlist is going to be Bashment and my playlist is Afrobeat and this and that you racist.
Speaker 2I love it. Cultural appropriation.
Speaker 1However, I feel like, when it comes to aesthetic, like Justin Bray's, like I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 2Because we like it.
Speaker 1It's good culture, it's fun, yeah, but your hair, though, like it doesn't look good, though I think it looks alright. Do you think? I feel like we're just so not used to it. It kind of looks a bit weird and, don't get me wrong, I've even myself had braids like back in. Spain racist like she said, it's a very, it's a very popular thing, even in Spain, if you go down south, yeah, especially like it's really hot.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's really hot. You'll see loads of like black women doing hair. You're kind of helping them out as well. Blah, blah, blah, like it is. It is also a cultural thing in non-black countries, but the country where we live at you know what you're doing. Do you know what I mean? You know exactly what you're doing here's we?
Speaker 4I just think no one owns it. Yeah, I just think they like it.
Speaker 2And if they're trying to be, ain't that like a compliment thing? I don't understand. I get that, but I might say oh yeah.
Speaker 1No because it'd be weird if it was the your own. Like what's making you hate your culture so much?
Speaker 4but then that's why I just want to try. Do you get?
Speaker 1me like I could love your culture and like, let's say, love like jollof and love or whatever that's not going to make me. Hate my bush, do you?
Speaker 2get me wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 6I've never known I don't know what culture is, what is?
Speaker 4that you've never had chinese have you ever had chinese food? Yeah, no, I do.
Speaker 1That's what I said can do both, but that's never going to make me make me eat Chinese every night or forget about my own culture.
Speaker 6How am I not allowed to sample a different culture at nine o'clock on a Friday night?
Speaker 1That's literally what I said.
Speaker 6I said, you can eat all different foods, but can't somebody have a sample of a hairstyle for a couple of?
Speaker 1days. Yeah, again, it depends, like, let's say, I don't know, I just feel like it doesn't. There's no point for it, like here in this country. Whatever it's hard maintenance, it's really expensive. So I feel like your intention is not to appreciate a culture. You're just doing it purely for aesthetic. You're really coming out of your way. It's probably damaging your hair for aesthetic. You're really coming out of your way.
Speaker 3It's probably damaging your hair, like you're doing too much that's the way I see it.
Speaker 2Now let's say same with weave.
Speaker 1Let's say, yeah, well, let's say, you go into jamaica, you're a bro, you go to the beach, this woman's like 20 and I'll get your hair done. Yeah, it makes sense, do it. You're in jamaica, do you? I mean, it's hot, your, your hair's gonna be hair, do you? I mean, it makes sense. I feel like it's very context, context dependent. So why is it different in the UK for someone to get it done.
Speaker 1Because it doesn't really make sense. I feel like in the UK you're really coming out of your way to look like a different culture. Again, coming back to why do you hate your own culture?
Speaker 5Have you ever had.
Speaker 6Why do you want?
Speaker 1to look racially ambiguous.
Speaker 6Because I feel like that's what you do when you get in there. Your lips done Do you have them puffed up.
Speaker 1Yeah, racial appropriation, but for me I can't like, do you do it for your aesthetics? It is purely an insecurity thing and I hate saying like, I hate talking down on myself, no, no, no, but every cosmetic thing I've ever done is purely out of insecurity.
Speaker 6I don't want you to have to do that see the point of because it seems like you're on two waves here. It's like okay.
Speaker 1But is big lips only black? No, yeah. Wow.
Speaker 7Is it?
Speaker 6So no, white girls will ever have it. No, but it's another stereotype, though. It is another stereotype, just like the hair is very much a I think we get it.
Speaker 1I think that was more of like a like a social media slash celebrity thing. Whether we're getting bigger lips, white or black, blah, blah, blah. Whether what the origin of that was, we don't know. I want to say I don't know why Kim K got her lips on and whatever do you get me?
Speaker 5But I think that's probably where we got it from.
Speaker 1We see all this. Yeah, exactly, but does that correlate to black? Kim K's had box braids.
Speaker 6But how does and what does that have to do with lips? Like, do you get me all these things? I'm not really, also, I can't hear, I can't. You can't hear me. I'm just trying to say that if you're gonna be okay with doing aesthetics in one way, you it's. It's hard to hear you and I don't. I don't think you're completely judging, but I feel like you are taking a certain side with it when it comes to the, the hair and I think with the aesthetics.
Speaker 1Again, filler has nothing to do with race. I want to say Because you could do all different types of.
Speaker 6Why is the big lips then? Because again the stereotype of big lips is that black women tend to have thicker lips.
Speaker 1Yeah, if you want to see it that way, then fair enough, but I feel like it's different what you do to your face, because you don't just get your lips done. You might get some filler on your nose, and that again has nothing to do with with culture, but I feel like it's just sorry, go on, make.
Speaker 6I know you're dying to go on go on.
Speaker 4I just think if someone thinks they look good with wearing braids, I think it's allow them. It's no different to you thinking you look good with wearing braids. I think it's allow him. It's no different to you thinking you look good with big lips and your nose done, your boobs done. Like it's literally no different, it's just someone.
Speaker 1Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not fully against it. Like, as you can probably tell, I'm kind of on the fence about it. But I just feel like there really is a certain type of girl who just wants to be black. So bad and okay, fair enough, you might think about like of it as like, oh, there's nothing wrong with it if you want to be black, then thingy. But I just feel like it's kind of weird that you're trying to be a different culture. Do you know? I mean like again, why are you not proud of your own? Why are you trying so bad to aesthetically look like I'm stereotypically a certain culture? It could be black, african, it could be whatever it Do you get?
Speaker 2what I mean. You shouldn't get your lips big then, because just yeah, but I feel like that's your culture. Why are you trying to change your culture?
Speaker 1No, I think lips big is nothing to do. Like Latinas have big lips.
Speaker 2They're not Black. I feel like Do you get what I mean? It's a white.
Speaker 1I mean. Catch it bitch, all right let's go, Not me, but Russians.
Speaker 6Have some plug Pour it when you're ready bro yeah, next question the cap was propped, it was prime, prime.
Speaker 7This is a semi-serious topic, oh no, try and make it jovial. Being blackmailed by a partner. So the first part of the question is how women don't come forward. Another part of the question is how women don't come forward. Another part of the question is women being spiked or just being spiked in general, so it can be men and women, or however you want to pronounce, yourself Not talking about it enough. What can you do to be aware and how to avoid it? So there's three parts to that question. So we'll go for the first part first being blackmailed by a partner and how do women come forward with this.
Speaker 2It's a tricky one for me, because being blackmailed may look like you must have done something to be blackmailed in the first place.
Speaker 5It's already that is a yeah position. Exactly that that is.
Speaker 2There is ways to yeah so you must have done something not always how are?
Speaker 1you getting blackmailed like what's the, what's the thing? What are they using? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2no, alright, so can you give an example of like something? Maybe it's just me being a bit an example yeah, of like, something was blackmailed, that's not.
Awareness and Prevention of Drink Spiking
Speaker 5That's not wrong uh, if this is not gonna be on the podcast oh, it's gonna be so don't say it is a very good friend of mine. Uh, she was, um, she was spiked. Uh, well, she was spiked, she was recorded and after that, with that recording, instead of them taking them to hospital, they blackmail her with that recording. Now they they not only blackmail her but threaten like quite badly. So obviously this person didn't come forward because she was scared.
Speaker 2Okay, she was spiked. I do understand that, but I'm just trying to figure out where the blackmail is.
Speaker 5The blackmail is the recording.
Speaker 2No, but I'm saying like they didn't do anything wrong Unless they're embarrassed about what? But it's like they have done things when they were, when they were spiked when they were spiked exactly so they're not unconscious they may have been unconscious at certain parts.
Speaker 5Yeah, but people don't know she's been spiked, so exactly and that's now I'm saying they would know, now you would know you would know, you'd know you're drunk or something, there's something wrong.
Speaker 2Your eyes would be like you can tell when someone's spiked, like yeah, but people are not going to look.
Speaker 1If she's talking about a tape, people are not going to look into it like, oh, they're just seeing a girl having sex no, I do, I do get that, but it's like no one's analyzing, or has she been spiked like? Let me?
Speaker 2exactly I think it would just get to a point for me, just get to a point where it's like you know, I'm gonna fuck no more mate, just whatever, just put it out there. Yeah, do it, because do it there's only two things you're either waiting for them to turn into good people, or you can go that well about legal action like yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's, that's okay with legal action.
Speaker 5they can it.
Speaker 2it goes a very, very long road, of course, a A long road, but what other choices there, though, because these people are not going to turn into good people.
Speaker 5There is a choice. There is always a choice.
Speaker 6You know what it is I feel like on a more open span of it. I feel like it's a cultural thing, if that makes sense. It's different where you are. We may sit here and be like like yeah, it's just a normal thing, but you know, in Colombia it may be a thing where you can't just go to the police.
Speaker 5the police work for the same brother yeah, they're all in the same cahoots like it kind of depends here in the UK, though.
Speaker 6Oh really again my point still stands it depends where you are, because I know like say, jamaica, that's scary, though, imagine getting Jamaica. That's scary, though, imagine getting spiked, that's so outside of your control. You see what I mean. Like, you know, like.
Speaker 1OnlyFans and whatever you've done it to yourself, but this you've literally yeah, no.
Speaker 6They're scared of it. They're scared of it, you're going for them. I know yeah.
Speaker 1Wow.
Speaker 5I've spoken to so many girls and they just they get embarrassed.
Speaker 2They just say, oh yeah, I was drunk on the podcast what I'm gonna say, because I was gonna say this before everyone started talking. Firstly, you do ever try and spike someone.
Speaker 5You're a scumbag anyway yeah, yeah that's the first thing I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't condone that if I ever said that I'm throwing a left and a right hook straight away, and well, yeah, and I think most guys that are not like that are gonna see things like that and not like it. So, um, that's that's the first thing I would say is yeah, but what I would say to women is that the world is definitely not a very, very nice place and there is a lot of predator or men you have to be. Unfortunately, this is the way it is. You know, the genders have different things that they have to worry about and, unfortunately for women, you're more vulnerable in that situation. So I would just say, like, obviously, don't accept drinks from and these are the kind of things that I would say to my daughter if I had one don't accept drinks from nobody don't ever leave your drink don't leave your friends in general, being a pair at all times.
Speaker 6And if your friends are that type of friend to leave, you don't be friends with them, exactly.
Speaker 2So they're the messages that I would send as a male, but I don't really know the full. Does anyone else want to say anything on that? The spiking thing.
Speaker 5Well, I actually am working in nightclubs for quite a long time and a lot of people just leave their cups right next to you. They can be with their friends and things can happen in a second and they can't realize it and at the end everyone thinks that person is drunk, because you don't necessarily just go.
Speaker 5yeah, of course you look like you're just drunk, yeah right but your your legs, for example, don't't work and at a certain point you're going to do whatever they tell you. If they tell you go and take money out of the cash bank, you'll do it Right. It depends, and also it's super, super, super dangerous, because if they put a little bit extra they could kill you.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, scumbags, anyway, just don't leave your drink You're going to leave your drink, it all comes down.
Speaker 6I'm sorry, I am a type I am very much conscious. I've always been conscious about those things since I was a child. Going a young teen, going out, like awareness is everything like. You have to know your surroundings, even when you've had a few drinks. And if you've got, if you've had enough drinks to the point where you're questioning your awareness, that's when you've had enough. That's your limit. You need to chill out. Once you're going past that, you're leaving yourself vulnerable.
Speaker 1So it's just about having a but even so, you never know like what if you're going out, whether you think that you're close friends, whatever you're thinking I'm going to the girl, can you hold my drink? You come in it like I feel like yeah, awareness is important but some, yeah, imagine, like, I feel like that's different, though.
Speaker 6No, no, no, I blame you, my friend, you damn right, you made that choice. Yeah, but that's what I mean like.
Speaker 1I feel like if you're a bit naive, then it's just a scary word.
Speaker 6All right, then I picked a good friend yeah, but what is he gonna say?
Speaker 1yes, do you know? I mean no, what I'm trying to say is, like it's just so hard.
Speaker 2The point I'm trying to make is that someone that would spike you or drink as your friend is going to show other traits.
Speaker 1I've heard. I've heard stories like that, but I'm going to say they're not going to show other sneaky traits yeah, that's mad, like I even met.
Speaker 6You're going to see money going, missing out your purse.
Speaker 1So I'm saying don't just start house party, and by house party I mean there was like five people just drinking up and she still stayed friends with them. I cut her off because I kept. I kept hearing stories like that. I was like girl, you're actually crazy. But um, yeah, like it happens, it sounds mad, but it happens like she literally couldn't even walk. She had to. Whatever she was like she was rolling her eyes back to her fucking brain.
Speaker 6I had a very similar conversation with a girl about this, and it sometimes for some women and I don't know why it's like you can see that the social circle that you're in is one that obviously doesn't like you, is only using you for you to be a plus one or you add some sort of value to their life, but they're not adding on to yours. But you will still try and hold that social circle because it's the only one that is there. And I see all the time it's like because women are afraid of being the leader and being independent and saying all right, then I'm no longer going to be friends with you and worry about just being alone and not having friends. They're like no, I'm going to tolerate this treatment and this way all the time. So, yeah, that them girls will put themselves in a position where they're spiked and they're guaranteed oh girl, yeah, you spiked me. That's crazy, though.
Navigating Nightlife Safety and Etiquette
Speaker 2What I would say is, in general, right and I've noticed as I've got women in general they're not very danger alert, if I'm completely honest, right, we're very I feel like, not Very like very fair. Yeah, not all of us, I know women that go out with no money Don't know, how you get home. No reason I'm going to get home. Somehow. It's like that and I've always heard this. I'm like that is absolutely crazy to me no but then they put themselves.
Speaker 1You'll have a friend calling you at 4 am in the morning saying no girl, I'm stranded this day and I'm thinking how did you even allow yourself?
Speaker 2to be in that position. I'm at this guy's house. Why are you at this guy's house? I?
Speaker 1couldn't drink. If I was out with no money in my purse or no money in my account, I wouldn't even drink. I'd be thinking about it. I'd be sat in a corner like I can't just have your relationship.
Speaker 2You're going to have different experiences because, as a woman, you can go out with no money. You can get your drinks bought.
Speaker 1Yeah, of course. Oh, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2You can get home. It's just if you pick the wrong person, that's dropping you home. That's when things can go wrong?
Speaker 1No, of course, but you still need to. That's the thing, let's right. They move in a bit bookie, whatever, blah, blah, blah. So I've got money, I can always get myself a new home, I'm safe. If I've got no money, then how?
Speaker 2am I gonna get out of this? You already made a mistake.
Speaker 1How am I? Yeah, do you know I mean, but afters why you don't know these people. No, no, I'm just saying it's just been lucky basically yeah, but I'm just saying as an example how can you actually go out with no like plan b or something just purely relying on people paying for stuff?
Speaker 6It's mad you say that, but there is. I know it may be crazy, but 75%, I would say, of women through their teens have at least done that once. Yeah.
Speaker 7Yeah.
Speaker 1Nah.
Speaker 6I feel like I always need a plan B, though.
Speaker 1Like, don't get me wrong. I've been on nights out where I've not paid for a single thing. I'm not jumping on a man's like on a guy's car, but I'm letting him pay for my Uber. I don't mind, or pay for my taxi or whatever. That's crazy. Now I'll still have my own money in my account, just in case in case anything goes wrong.
Speaker 6You don't know where that taxi's going. I paid for that.
Speaker 2Hey bro, drop her off here, Tell her You're living dangerously.
Speaker 6You're living dangerously. Nah, you know, you're not that dumb?
Speaker 1You're not that dumb Like you won't just jump in a random taxi without knowing where it's going. You let him book a taxi, pay for it, and then you'll tell the driver go to. You know what's funny, You're not that stupid.
Speaker 6Before Uber, what was we doing? Because I would love to Call a taxi. It's like a new thing now to me anyway, Like back in the day, it was a thing like that.
Speaker 1I just think it's mad to just go out with new like new family or anything.
Speaker 4I just think, if you've got no money, don't go out.
Speaker 1Yeah, exactly, you can't afford going out, don't go out.
Speaker 2It's different experiences because, like, if to be smart with it, then if I'm going to do it like, I'm not going to put that's why I say you don't just jump in a random man's car I'm going to use money. If dickheads want to pay for my stuff, I'll get. I'll get the logic behind it, but it's just like yeah, why would you pay for your drink?
Speaker 2I'm saying you shouldn't really accept it. You're one of them dangerous hoes now. But I'm gonna say I'm not gonna get got. I'm very cut like I'm confident I wouldn't get got.
Speaker 6I'm not going to get got and don't get me wrong you know what it is. I'm not going to get got bro. I know I'm not. No, wait a minute. You know what? You're a dangerous. I would have been like wait guys, how about wait, have you?
Speaker 2I ain't getting got because.
Speaker 7I'm watching that.
Speaker 2I'm watching that coke being poured into the drink no, but you watching it like a hawk.
Speaker 6And the first? You've already made the mistake. Why did you leave the house you haven't got? No money.
Speaker 2Maybe I wouldn't leave with no money. I'd have the money to get home yeah, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1I'd find my way there.
Speaker 2The drinks would be paid for. I'm watching them drinks like a hawk. I'm never leaving them. If I'm leaving them, I'm drinking. I'm down in it, I'm not getting got nah, that's terrible.
Speaker 1Have yous never done that I?
Speaker 2can actually count on my hands you have.
Speaker 1Look at you, look at this.
Speaker 6You do it every weekend you wouldn't even see me in a club most weekend. I'm trying to think how many times I've actually done that and I'm being genuine.
Speaker 2I'm just, I can barely. I ain't gonna lie, I'm not sure, but I know, I know.
Speaker 1Yeah, three times maybe but I feel like, whatever your answer is, there's always going to be a girl who's going to be like oh, if you have it, then you break.
Speaker 5Like oh you don't have the money.
Speaker 1And then some are like oh, you're stingy, blah, blah, blah. And then if you say oh, yes, I have, they're like oh, you're dumb like that stupid button.
Speaker 2No, no, no, no, no, not if you ask me you're deaf or not oh no, you're not asking for it.
Speaker 1If you ask me you're deaf or not, can you get me a drink? I just don't offer drinks.
Speaker 2And if you ever did try, if you try to say this line of oh, you're broke, mate, I'm going to find out what the most expensive bottle is in there and I'm going to buy that and I'm going to drink it in front of you.
Speaker 6I feel like this. Going on a date and it's me and you, it's a different thing. But in a club, if I'm in a club and you want me to buy you a drink, for you to walk away with that drink and just go like.
Speaker 1Oh, so you want to buy her a drink and you want something in return. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, yeah, actually.
Speaker 5See that's a bit weird so you want.
Speaker 1Is that what I'm worth?
Speaker 6No A vodka, lemonade single as well.
Speaker 1No. You're going to make sure to tell the bartender.
Speaker 2The drink. Can I be honest the drink?
Speaker 1by G. Is that what I'm worth? Can I be honest?
Speaker 2The drink is good, a lot of women are worth that these days.
Speaker 1Where there is that you buy a few drinks and you're good to go, man, but that this guy. So I just take the drink and walk off. And that looks probably horrible on me, but I promise you I'm not entertaining you if I don't want to entertain you. What are you going to do? Up a cup me, trip you up.
Speaker 6Courting at a bar has been going since Roman times, since early ages, women getting buying drinks, going to a bar with no money.
Speaker 1Why are you pointing at me? I've got, I've got no money.
Speaker 6I know you do that yeah, and you would have men going there and, yeah, I'm not going to sit and lie.
Speaker 2But, I do also know, like You've all done that. Have you done it? No, I want to know, because everyone did say nothing.
Speaker 3Of course you have.
Speaker 1Yeah, I have, I'm not going to say I have.
Speaker 5No, I usually go out for work drinks.
Speaker 2No, I'm saying have you ever accepted a drink? Don't lie.
Speaker 1Accepted a drink.
Speaker 5In 36 years of your life Drive the cab 36 years of your life.
Speaker 7Yeah, yeah, yeah, never, never accepted a drink Never been offered a drink no, never been offered.
Speaker 3I've been, but I would never accept it.
Speaker 4Meg, you've never been in pub and no one's offered you anything. Yeah, not the pub. I've been offered a drink, but I'll never take it.
Speaker 1It's going to be some brer called John offering you a drink at the pub. What?
Speaker 2are you lying for?
Speaker 1I think it's just fine.
Speaker 3Why are you going to say no to a free?
Speaker 1drink the thing. Yeah, you wouldn't say no if you're conscious and you see him being poured. It's not the guy pouring it from some dodgy bottle. I don't mind if it's coming directly from the bar. I'm looking at it Because you don't need men.
Speaker 2You don't need no man.
Speaker 1No, but I'm saying if you don't need it.
Speaker 3I don't need a man.
Speaker 1So what you could possibly pay for it yourself Are you in a relationship, bro.
Speaker 2What's going on in the?
Speaker 3world. But I'm saying, like years ago, when I was in a relationship, I'd accept a drink. Like I'm saying, if you're going to get offered a drink, take it. If it's free, as long as your eyes are on it, what are you going to say? And also, if you make it very clear whether you're interested or not.
Speaker 2No one mate, no one. You get the drink and you say see, ya. No like you said, you said you would do it, you'd be watching the bad.
Speaker 1I said I did slightly change it. I said yeah, I understand why I feel like it is more a case of it's just the principle like I'm a girl and I think I'm a well, I want to believe I'm objectively attractive, so I go out and I don't pay for shit. Like it's more of like a status thing. Like I feel like if you say, oh yeah, I went out and I spent a hundred pound as a girl, they're gonna be like oh, you're like, do you get what I mean?
Speaker 2no, not really, but I do.
Speaker 1I feel like that's the the societal perception. Like in reality, if you're spending 100 pound as a girl on a night out, you're a bad bitch. Like you are a boss bitch, you're paying like do you know you've got the disposable income to do that, like big up, but 100100 that's not what people that's disposable income.
Speaker 1Yeah, for a night out. Baggy like club money, whatever this, that. But what I'm trying to say is that's not how people view it. People view it as like oh yeah, I'm a good looking girl, I don't pay for shit, do you get? Me that's a stupid mindset but I'm just saying, like the, the things I've observed and heard, and this and that Let me make it clear what I think.
Speaker 2If you're actually interested in the guy, fair enough.
Speaker 4If you're not, you shouldn't accept the joke. I just don't, Probably won't.
Speaker 6No, because she's just like yeah, you're just like no, no, no, I'll get round you I feel like that's automatically unattractive, though, and then he's, yeah, just paying for girls.
Speaker 1Are you a simp, like? Do you get me? Like it shows. I feel like it's weird, a weird way of flirting. That probably means you've got no chat, because if you need to buy me a drink for me to even look at you, I'll have a conversation with you.
Speaker 1That means you've got that chat, if a conversation starts if let's say, for example, say bk came up to me and he's trying to chat me up and I'm not having it at the club, and he's like, oh baby, let me buy you a drink. So now I'm like, oh okay, do you know what I mean? He had to do, that he had to buy me a drink for me to even entertain him. That's stupid.
Speaker 6You got me fucked up. I know no drink coming from me.
Speaker 2Go on, Meg buy my own stuff and I don't want you're going to end up with cats.
Speaker 1Man that independent, you need to allow that independence it's good, but it's also good to be like let somebody show you some chivalry for once, I feel like that gas is made up as well, if you play like go on.
Speaker 6Sorry, go on Meg. I live on my own.
Speaker 4I pay everything myself. So when someone offers to buy something, I'm no because I feel like society. Nowadays. If someone even buys a drink for you, they have that against you for the rest of their life.
Speaker 2I love what you would drink, but everything you just said. You're just a normal adult.
Speaker 4How many cousins?
Speaker 6does everyone have. Everyone pays for their own rent. I don't know where the Wait, wait, wait. I'm not going to say.
Speaker 2This is blatant brainwashing because, every adult on the planet does that. Yeah, everyone pays for their.
Speaker 1If my friend ever came up to me and was like yo, I'm independent man.
Speaker 2I live in a flat, bro. I slap him be like what are you talking about, bro?
Speaker 1literally, who else is going to pay for my rent if not myself? Like please, that's crazy to me.
Speaker 2I feel like independence comes from other things.
Speaker 1I have a dog, so shout out to my dog alright, you're going to get another dog. There was a pet there, I felt there was a physically independent, where you obviously pay for your own shit, this, that, but you might be like very emotionally codependent or this or that.
Speaker 2Meg listen, allow that independent thing leave it alone, that's brainwashing man, it's not even allow that if a man wants to look after you and you're interested in a man we don't like that man.
Speaker 4I feel like it's just a 50-50 thing no, it's not certain guy.
Speaker 1He wants to look after you yeah, but I feel like I want my man to want me that much that he wants to look after me.
Speaker 2Well, I disagree with that. I think the woman should.
Speaker 4No, but I feel like how I work, even with friendships. If my friend, for example, paid for something, I'm then going to return it. Honestly, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, but even.
Speaker 1That sounds a bit like we always have to be even, but for me it's oh go on.
Speaker 4Sorry. So like again, if someone's buying me a drink, I'm going to buy them a drink in return because I feel like it's Fair enough.
Speaker 2Is it 50-50? Anyhow, actually, I want to talk about chivalry. Yeah, let's go to chivalry, because I think chivalry is dead. Opening doors car doors Buying you a drink, mate Buying you a drink. This is the thing.
Speaker 1I would love that. I would absolutely love that.
Speaker 2No, but Okay, the shivery thing.
Speaker 1The reason it's dead is because of women you killed it Because you say we don't appreciate you, we don't like nice guys, you don't really.
Speaker 2It's new Because you got people like Meg talking about I'm independent.
Speaker 1No, it's the good looking guys that don't do it. So we obviously initially go for an attractive man and they don't seem to do this thing, and then it'll be the geekist loser opening the door for you, whoa whoa?
Gender Equality and Relationship Dynamics
Speaker 2Can I respond to that? The geeks are not losers. Do you believe in equality?
Speaker 1Yeah, what are we talking about? Like what men, women, gender Equality between the genders?
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah yeah, if you believe in equality between the genders, there's no such thing as chivalry.
Speaker 1Mm, I think that's a. I feel like equality is a bit deeper. It's more like about human rights, this, that whatever. I think opening a door, I could do that for you, handsome, you'd be like what the fuck?
Speaker 2No, what do you mean? We like compliments. What are you talking about? No, not a lot of compliments. We don't get them.
Speaker 1Or if what If you're trying to get in your car and I'm opening the door for you? You'd be like ugh. Because I want to do that.
Speaker 2Do you? Know, what I mean. I don so.
Speaker 1I'm saying it comes from both ways.
Speaker 2Like you wouldn't like that either.
Speaker 1So don't talk about equality, because if we're equal, you'd still wouldn't like me to do those things for you.
Speaker 2I mean I can do, I mean I'll pay for your dinner, but you'd feel like a bitch. I don't believe in equality, though that's the difference you do, I don't. I believe that man should be the provider. Yes, men, but men being a provider doesn't mean the woman's not worth or like she's not enough. We need to calm down. Personally, I don't believe in equality.
Speaker 1I feel like it's a big misconception. A traditional family structure doesn't mean the woman's inferior. She's doing as much as you, just in different aspects.
Speaker 1Do you think the house cleans itself, and not just that, not just cooking and cleaning. For me, if we're doing traditional, obviously your job is to protect and provide and make sure I'm stable and we're stable For me. It's for you to not worry about anything else. You wake up, your breakfast is served, you don't have to worry about anything else, just protecting and providing right, that's my job. And you're telling me that's not enough, that's not a lot, and we're not on the same level.
Speaker 1You are providing financially You're providing as a form of protection, but I'm doing a lot as well. I'm making sure you're always comfortable, I'm making sure you come to your home and not just the flat or house, et cetera, et cetera. And you're telling me I'm not doing enough. Who's saying that? No, because you're saying equality in a way where you're saying kind of like a man is superior and this, and that I feel like that is a lot to do as well. This is the thing.
Speaker 2I don't want to really go into that. I'm going to upset a lot of people, but it's true and I'm sorry if I sound like a dickhead, but it is, it is.
Speaker 1No, because I feel like there is a lot to do as well, and it's not just cooking. Let's say, I want you to come back home and be able to chat, like if there's something wrong, like you've got that little therapist as well. Do you get what I mean?
Speaker 2like just to actually have all these things like you've not got to worry about anything else the man to talk to the woman yeah, we don't want to talk to y'all that's why.
Speaker 1Why do you not want to talk to? Because we don't feel comfortable to do it. Why am I not making you feel?
Speaker 2comfortable. Men were like yo. I'd rather talk to a brick wall.
Speaker 1But no, but that's the thing I feel like if you are doing, not to say that I would do well, I mean, it depends. It depends on the man and a lot of things, but if I was to do traditional, I'd want him to be comfortable. Like I'd want him to be able to chat to yeah, exactly, I mean what. Would you mean anything?
Speaker 2I feel like I want some new something.
Speaker 1Some needs.
Speaker 6Some new. I need another woman.
Speaker 1Yeah, chat to me Because, if not, that's going to develop in you cheating. So I feel like we can solve that from the root If you're going to bottle it up Right and then so why are you not in a relationship then?
Speaker 2Because you're saying all these things that you do?
Speaker 1I feel like I told you what my you know what my problem is. We're going to go to that. I'm going to ask you you know what my problem is?
Speaker 2Yeah, let's move on 50-50 in a relationship Like is it 50-50?
Speaker 3I'd say so yeah.
Speaker 2Who wears the trousers? You?
Speaker 3Is that?
Speaker 2what I mean. This is what I'm saying. I don't miss?
Speaker 4I don't miss what. That's why women have to take the trousers, even if it's the most simplest things in the house of leaving your socks, making your bed, washing up a dish. Are you not an adult?
Speaker 6No, no, no, no, no, no. Wait a minute. There is a certain thing to that, though. Men do like that.
Speaker 1Yes, being looked after. It is.
Speaker 6Some women will see it as a mummy character, mummy character trait. Sorry, but it's more of a nurturing trait, because you know what's crazy.
Speaker 1I see, I kind of get it.
Speaker 6You know what's going to be crazy is the fact of yeah, you're going to clean up after my shit, and you may not like it, but you know what that tells me? That any amount of children that I now bear for you is now you.
Speaker 1I know you'll be yeah, but you're not no. But yeah, don't take it too far. I'm not going to walk around and you just like dropping socks everywhere and this and that, Like please be a decent adult.
Speaker 6There is a certain balance, even if he's paying for everything. I'm trying to make him put the socks up. I'll do whatever.
Speaker 6I'm just trying to make you understand where a man would be comfortable with a dirty mum from the start no, it's just understanding the comfortability that's what I mean, like on that basis where, yeah, of course it's not just taking a piss and throwing stuff about, but yeah, men will get lazy after a certain time sometimes, especially when they're comfortable with their woman and you're in a household together, because it does kind of breathe that mentality unconsciously. It doesn't mean because I know she's going to look after my kids, but unconsciously you start making those decisions to know that you're a good mother for my children.
Speaker 2We're going to wrap up soon. Anyway, what pause? 50-50, because we didn't actually hear so it's 50-50 yeah and you wear the trousers right the leggings?
Speaker 2yeah, you do. This is the. This is the. Okay, I'm going to give you some game. Yeah, I'm going to, even if you do. If anyone asks you, it's him. Yeah, let's practice. Let's go into a safe space, let's go. Let's practice, because we love that. It makes us feel like we're the man it does. Yeah, so we're going to practice. So who wears the trousers? Moi oh shit, she failed straight away.
Speaker 6I mean, we'll try again. No, there was a retest give her a retest one more.
Speaker 2try, give her a retest.
Speaker 3One more try.
Speaker 6Let's see if she did I gotta be real.
Speaker 2All right, let's just let's try fucking Fucking. You know what it's his fault anyway, it's his fault, no, I?
Speaker 3feel like, though, women do more anyway than men in a relationship Mm-hmm like a lot a lot of things, which is.
Speaker 1I feel like we usually just do everything like you work and you'll end up like getting him gifts, like you'll get whatever the food every now and then. Then obviously you're looking after him and like the emotional side of things, so you literally do it like you've got a finger in every pie and he's probably just like a finger in every pie there he is, he don't, he doesn't buy you. But he probably that's the thing. He probably just does a couple of those things and not all 10 of them.
Speaker 2I think if he's not providing for you completely or mostly, then I get why you would say you do more, because if you're working and you're working and you're saying he's not getting your flowers?
Speaker 1No, he probably isn't. You really have to beg for those flowers as well, Posting on your Instagram like little reels of big, massive, and then do you get what I mean. Men need to understand this For him to get you that.
Relationship Dynamics and Gender Roles
Speaker 2And I do say this, shay, is that you need to understand that your woman needs emotional stimulation and if it doesn't come out in gifts and surprise holidays and things like that, yeah, and just doing random stuff it comes out in, I'm going to start some shit. She'll just start some shit with you to argue for that emotional stimulation. So that's some game for you. Just do random shit gifts, holidays, booked we're going to dinner tonight anything like that, where it's going to be an emotional change it doesn't have to be spending like.
Speaker 1Flowers are five quid like and if they make you feel good, they don't. They don't mean shit, but they make you feel good. Like I even used to say, I'm going to start getting men flowers just so they know how it feels, so they can start doing that to others Like. It just feels good, so why would you not do it?
Speaker 3It's going to cost you a free pack and it's going to put a smile on our face. Does your guy do this for you? Yeah, sometimes I'm not expecting it every Friday. Do you know what I mean? Can?
Speaker 2we're going to wrap up soon.
Speaker 1I really need to go. I'm going to miss, it's alright, you can plug social media for you. Sofya.222 40s.
Speaker 2So my question is you're in charge. So when something do you live together right yeah you do okay. So like, if something's going with the house and you're both disagreeing what it is, what you say goes no, we'll obviously speak about it someone has to have a final say, so who's that? It never ends it just never ends, so it just stays as a problem, we'll just do our own thing.
Speaker 3Oh, that's that sounds like.
Speaker 2How long have you been together?
Speaker 6six years that sounds like a fight over supremacy.
Speaker 4I think it just depends on the situation, depending on what they've done.
Speaker 2Now let's say I don't know.
Speaker 6Meg, I want to paint this room. No, we're getting rid of the dog.
Speaker 4What? And I want it pink.
Speaker 6Yeah.
Speaker 4Absolutely not. It's going to be pink, so I'm saying yeah.
Speaker 2But do you respect that, though? Because women like to only put them in their place? That's what they tell me, and so I've noticed it depends on the emotions.
Speaker 6It's the emotional side.
Speaker 1Look Meg just proved it.
Speaker 4Meg just proved it.
Speaker 6If something emotional is involved. It's all over.
Speaker 2Oh, now wait. Do you like being in charge? No, Do you not want to be led? I heard that at this room on the street. It's like they're like that. I don't know.
Speaker 4Hill men.
Speaker 6Women the leader. It's like heels and dress. We're going out at 7 and you get ready, we're taking you out. That's the rumour. Well, here you go, babes. We're going on holiday here's two tickets.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, yeah, sulking I think it's because this generational men lack of coming up with a plan that is true for example, for me, I need to know a time day no, but there's a contribution to that though.
Speaker 2Yeah, because we always hear you don't want us to do that.
Speaker 4Since. When.
Speaker 2All the time 50-50. You're traditional, so you're not going to hear this. You've been married and you're not going to know. This is foreign to you.
Speaker 5No, I did try dating and it just went back straight into my shell because it's it's dead. That's my point, it's true. It's true. Now, this generation I believe that everyone is not everyone. Of course.
Speaker 2There is a high percentage of princess, princess, men, princess princess, you wanted us to be more vulnerable and open with our emotions not me, but you know I'm saying that's what comes with it princesses, some girls, yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 5I think it depends on each person individually. Obviously, if you, if you choose that person, then don't whine about it. Does it make sense? Because you do have that period when you meet that person and as soon as you pick up the red flags, you can say I'm so sorry, this is not working. That's true, you know. But if you stay, the longer you stay, the longer you're going to, you know, suffer this, and then you're gonna be get resent, resentful towards that person but a lot of women love red flags.
Speaker 2That's what I'm saying. You'll see the red flags, and it's just like.
Speaker 5I like green, but that's your personal choice Huh. That's your personal choice, yeah.
Speaker 2I agree, I agree Okay.
Speaker 5But there is a very, very, very few men that are still very, I forgot.
Speaker 2No, there's a lot.
Speaker 5Is it chiv Chivory?
Speaker 2Yeah, there is, but I'm saying if he's going to be chivalrous, for the most part he's going to be traditional, which means he's going to want a traditional woman.
Speaker 5Yeah, but everything, I think everything lies on friendship. If you start everything with a friendship, the relationship is always going to be great, because at any point you're going to, I mean no, no, no, it went down, gotcha bitch, I wouldn't have said it, I get what you said.
Speaker 5It broke up because of external factors Not other people, but external factors, yeah, everything. Obviously, you cannot have a very, very long relationship with someone unless you're friends with them, because at some point you want to. Even if you're arguing, you're like stop, hey, do you want to go watch a movie? Do you want to go I don't know, for a walk? Do you want to go to this festival? Something like that. So everything, every base of every relationship is the friendship.
Speaker 3Right, gotta be soulmates yeah, but you're like your best friend as well's my best friend bestie, bestie fair enough um, should we wrap up with one more or actually?
Speaker 6no, I think we should wrap up yeah, we have got, we have covered a lot today.
Speaker 2Okay, listen we've come to the end of the show. I just want you to tell me how you think the show went and plug in your social media. If you Start from here and we'll work our way down, start with yourself.
Speaker 3A lot of opinions thrown about, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion. Whatever said, it is what it is. Instagram laneshanna.
Speaker 6I was expecting more. I ain't going to lie. Yeah, I was going to say that, laneshanna. I was waiting for like 044 or something like that.
Speaker 3I've got four names, so I won't put my full.
Speaker 2On the podcast, right, we do have a curse, right. So so normally 95% of the time, if people are in a relationship when they came on, when they come back, they're not in a relationship, and vice versa.
Speaker 3And why is that?
Speaker 2I have no idea. Might be some of the things I say I don't know.
Speaker 6Maybe the trousers.
Speaker 2Not all the time. Some people have, some people have fought it, but we'll get you on in a few weeks and she will confirm the curse because she's been there six years.
Speaker 4So let's see don't curse it then.
Speaker 2I'm just saying what happens that's all.
Speaker 6It's just a counterculture curse, unfortunately.
Speaker 5I don't know, maybe next time I come back with a husband sometimes maybe not a husband.
Speaker 4I might come back with 50 dogs, see, best answer is that innit while it is you get what you want the most, like a lantern it was a good investment in them.
Speaker 6Pedigree chunks I've invested in that.
Spanglish Life Podcast and Social Media
Speaker 2Yeah, therefore people like that. How do you think the show went? Social media.
Speaker 5I think it went great. We touched some, a lot of subjects. Obviously there is a lot to say, so hopefully I'm I'm invited again. Yeah, my social media is uh, insta. Underscore, lucia, can I? Say it yeah, yeah also if, if you want to learn spanish, I started a podcast with my best friend and which is the spanglish life.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, and is that what you do on there? Uh, spanish, speak Spanish.
Speaker 5We speak in Spanish and English. Oh, okay.
Speaker 7I did see that.
Speaker 2Okay, that's good. Then, on the end, woof, woof.
Speaker 4I just love a good chit chat. You know what?
Speaker 6I mean, I love a good chit chat.
Speaker 4We love to hear the opinions and the discussions and the Instagrammers in the life of MLC.
Speaker 2Don't forget the dog.
Speaker 4Simple don't forget the dog don't forget the bloody dog.
Speaker 2Alright, yeah so we've come to the end of the show we've been recording for over an hour now. If you've been watching this fantasy show, it makes no sense not subscribing now. You might as well subscribe. Press that button in the bottom right corner to subscribe. Just subscribe. I took your part. See, caught you off guard.
Speaker 6You know them ones, you see that yeah yeah, I was that pumped ready to go. He actually threw me, you know what? Yeah, turn it from subscribe to subscribe there, there we go, and, yeah, that's the end of the show, people oh, is that what we're doing?
Speaker 2okay, okay.
